Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Ultimate Showdown of Ultimate Destiny (5th nomination)


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was   Keep per the consensus and snow. &mdash; Maggot Syn 12:58, 15 June 2008 (UTC)

Ultimate Showdown of Ultimate Destiny
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This article is essentially a description of a flash animation that fails to establish any real-world notability and instead relies on unreferenced trivia--the fact that I was able to find only one news source online speaks volumes.

Truth be told, I was halfway tempted to speedy the article based on its current state and the fact that the last two discussions (the most recent of which was over a year ago) ended with no consensus based on WP:OTHERSTUFF arguments, but since other options exist (such as redirecting or merging to Neil Cicierega), I thought it best to bring it here for discussion. jonny - m t  01:31, 12 June 2008 (UTC)


 * Keep and clean up. The article does appear to cite some decent mentions in real-world sources (mostly in the form of paper newspapers, though, so it's hard to verify how big a part of those articles this was) which lead me to believe this probably just about fits the notability criteria. However, I agree that the article contains a load of really unnecessary OR trivia at the moment - it needs cleaning up but I don't think deleting is necessary. ~ mazca  talk 06:53, 12 June 2008 (UTC)


 * Speedy Keep The article already cites the Boston Globe, the Toronto Star and the Dayton Daily News. The song charted at the top of Dr Demento's annual list which is a significant accolade for such a novelty song.  Notability is therefore established readily by just reading the article.  Furthermore, the nomination suggests that the outcome should be to redirect or merge the material.  Merger and redirection are Keep results and do not require deletion.  Since the nomination misrepresents the facts and does not seek deletion, it should be speedily closed. Colonel Warden (talk) 09:47, 12 June 2008 (UTC)
 * The redirect and merge suggestions were alternate suggestions (hence the phrase "other options"), and the only one of those sources to actually mention this specific animation is the Boston Globe article. The Toronto Star article is about animutations in general, and the Dayton Daily News article is part of a "Seen and Heard" column that just talks about whatever seems to catch the author's fancy.


 * More to the point, a speedy keep should only be used when you have reason to suspect the nomination was in bad faith. That being said, feel free to oppose the nomination. -- jonny - m  t  13:22, 12 June 2008 (UTC)


 * Speedy keep. As a fifth nomination, this looks like filibustering to me.  - Smerdis of Tlön (talk) 14:23, 12 June 2008 (UTC)
 * The last nomination was well over a year ago and ended in no consensus. Please take a look through WP:SK. -- jonny - m  t  14:58, 12 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Comics and animation-related deletion discussions.   --  Fabrictramp  |  talk to me  17:54, 12 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Keep - One year isn't too short, but sources exist. Cleanup would be nice but not required. - Peregrine Fisher (talk) (contribs) 18:01, 12 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Keep - Notable Internet meme. The last.fm page for Lemon Demon is also particularly informative . AtaruMoroboshi (talk) 18:20, 12 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Keep and cleanup per Mazca. The article needs to be less cluttered if it is informative, and I would suggest that the massive tables add nothing to the understanding of the subject, but notability is otherwise well demonstrated.  Ford MF (talk) 18:51, 12 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Keep/cleanup, it cites sources, it's notable, it's been on Dr. Demento, just need to cut the cruft off. ViperSnake151 00:43, 13 June 2008 (UTC)
 * WP:SNOWBALL KEEP per all other voters. --Firefly322 (talk) 05:24, 13 June 2008 (UTC)
 * As per all comments above, Keep --Booksworm Sprechen-sie Koala? 12:09, 15 June 2008 (UTC)


 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.