Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Ultra-Orthodox Jews (Social Group)


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was   merge to Haredi Judaism. It is, of course, left to whoever does the merge, to determine what material, if any, is worth merging. In any case, leave a redirect behind -- RoySmith (talk) 17:42, 4 June 2014 (UTC)

Ultra-Orthodox Jews (Social Group)

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Duplicate of Haredi Judaism.

The hatnote and a talkpage comment claim that this article is about the culture and society and that article is about the theology and history. However, the Haredi Judaism article includes almost nothing about theology per se and not that much about history, mainly focusing on the cultural/social aspects that are supposedly reserved for this article.

In fact, the distinction between history/theology and culture/society is tenuous, especially since Haredim feel that their clothing etc. are mandated religiously. Perhaps there could be a separate article "Haredi philosophy", but the two articles currently existing are complete duplicates. Ypnypn (talk) 16:21, 27 May 2014 (UTC)


 * Delete per nom. --Jersey92 (talk) 17:37, 27 May 2014 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Judaism-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k (talk) 19:02, 27 May 2014 (UTC)


 * Delete. Content fork. JFW &#124; T@lk  21:36, 27 May 2014 (UTC)
 * Delete for 2 reasons. 1. content fork, more or less like the nomination. 2. Ultra-Orthodox Jews is a name that should not be used, as it is considered a pejorative compared to Hareidi Judaism. Debresser (talk) 23:29, 27 May 2014 (UTC)
 * Delete. It's a controversial term and a redundant article.  Andrew327 02:58, 28 May 2014 (UTC).  EDIT: It would be good to redirect the article to Haredi Judaism.  Andrew327 02:58, 29 May 2014 (UTC)
 * Merge and Redirect to the Haredi Judaism article because this is a WP:CONTENTFORK, and the term "ultra-Orthodox" as it applies to Jews is regarded as a pejorative term on WP for a long time now, as can be seen from the many discussions and understandings reached at Talk:Haredi Judaism/Archive 1, Talk:Haredi Judaism/Archive 2 and at a number of other places. Thank you, IZAK (talk) 09:13, 28 May 2014 (UTC)
 * Redirect, and merge any potentially useful information to Haredi Judaism. It may be that at some future point the Haredi Judaism article will be so developed that we will consider spinning off some sociological aspects, but we are far from that point.--Pharos (talk) 13:28, 28 May 2014 (UTC)
 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.