Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Uncle Albert's Auto Stop & Gunnery Shop 2035 Catalog


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was merge to Car Wars.  MBisanz  talk 22:34, 31 January 2020 (UTC)

Uncle Albert's Auto Stop & Gunnery Shop 2035 Catalog

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I Prod'ded this article because of a lack of notability: "No evidence of any notability among the 40 Google hits, nothing at Google Books either. The lone source in the article is from a publication from the same company, so not an independent source."

That "lone source" was the "capsule review" in Space Gamer. The article was deprodded with the addition of two independent sources.


 * Boardgamegeek is a catalog listing, verifying that the supplement exists (which was not under discussion), but not anything else. This is not a case of significant attention, but a listing similar to being in IMDb for a movie.
 * This is basically a blog post (and with the abundance of large images probably a copyvio), and hardly a reliable source as required by WP:N. Even so, it would still be a single source, not the multiple ones required.

So basically, we have one lengthy bloglike post on an unreliable site ( shows it to be a typical, probably good, game forum), a catalog listing, and a capsule review in a magazine from the same publisher and that's it. Nothing which is acceptable as a source establishing notability. Fram (talk) 05:39, 16 January 2020 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Games-related deletion discussions. Fram (talk) 05:39, 16 January 2020 (UTC)


 * Keep based on sources found, otherwise merge to Car Wars per WP:PRESERVE and WP:ATD. BOZ (talk) 13:08, 16 January 2020 (UTC)
 * As usual, can you address the sources and criticism of them, instead of just stating "keep" for the article you created anyway? Fram (talk) 13:26, 16 January 2020 (UTC)
 * Merge to Car Wars. The sources in the article are not enough to justify a keep. Not a very active user (talk) 06:32, 18 January 2020 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Science fiction-related deletion discussions. Necrothesp (talk) 11:23, 22 January 2020 (UTC)

 Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
 * Delete. Article itself fails GNG. A merge to Car Wars would be okay, but I expect it would need to be pared right back to avoid WP:UNDUE there. -- Sirfurboy (talk) 12:12, 22 January 2020 (UTC)

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks,  Sandstein   10:28, 23 January 2020 (UTC)
 * Keep or merge per BOZ. Freeknowledgecreator (talk) 02:23, 24 January 2020 (UTC)
 * Delete or merge to Car Wars - fails our notability guidelines as the sources clearly do not pass WP:GNG. SportingFlyer  T · C  11:41, 27 January 2020 (UTC)
 * keep two print sources have been found. There are certainly more, but they will be hard to find given the time frame.  So meets WP:N as exists (if just barely) and there is almost certainly more (I remember reading reviews of this back in the day in fact) Hobit (talk) 23:12, 27 January 2020 (UTC)
 * there is only one print source, and that is published by the company that made the game, so isn't independent. For the purpose of meeting WP:N, we have at the moment zero print sources. Fram (talk) 09:32, 31 January 2020 (UTC)
 * Delete. Not sure what print sources is referring to? There's the capsule review in Space Gamer but I don't see a second in this AfD or on the article. In any case, the sourcing as presented is inadequate. As Fram has correctly pointed out, Boardgamegeek is basically an attempt to comprehesively catalogue all board games; an entry on there provides zero indication of notability. Grogheads appears to be an amateur blog  run by fans, not a reliable general-interest publication for the purpose of gauging significant attention by the world at large (from WP:GNG). &spades;PMC&spades; (talk) 09:19, 31 January 2020 (UTC)


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