Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Undergraduate Student Government at Stony Brook University


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was   no consensus and noting DGG's offer to take the article under his wing.  MBisanz  talk 20:39, 13 January 2013 (UTC)

Undergraduate Student Government at Stony Brook University

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Run of the mill university student government. Nothing particularly important, or interesting about it. An unbelievable amount of detail, and yet, nothing of interest to anyone who isn't an active member. In sum: sources are insufficient to establish notability, per WP:GNG. (Also, it's apparently become one young man's online resume, which explains a lot of the content.) GrapedApe (talk) 03:25, 20 December 2012 (UTC)

Keep This article clearly meets the criteria for notability. Not being special is your opinion.--173.168.99.186 (talk) 08:33, 20 December 2012 (UTC)
 * Speedy Keep Your opinion on the university is not enough for deletion. This is a detailed article with many references related to a notable university. I'd like to note that many articles related to science & technology are nothing of interest to those not already familiar with the subject. This is an encyclopedia for many different articles. Run of the mill is not a good enough reason to delete an article.--Joey (talk) 08:05, 20 December 2012 (UTC)
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 * Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.


 * Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Courcelles 01:05, 27 December 2012 (UTC)




 * Keep I don't know why this was relisted but anyways as said your opinions do not justify why this article should be deleted.  Jay Jay Talk to me 01:36, 27 December 2012 (UTC)
 * Way to attack the straw man. Please, all !keeps, explain how this this article satisfies WP:GNG. And, be specific.--GrapedApe (talk) 05:31, 28 December 2012 (UTC)


 * Keep I wrote quite a bit of this article primarily because I find the concept of student government rather interesting. The student government at Stony Brook University has been a very notable student government within the SUNY system and was fairly influential in the development of student life at Stony Brook University. For example, the disbanding/re-establishment of the student government was covered in the New York Times. The events sponsored by the student government have had a fairly large impact on the surrounding area of Stony Brook/Long Island as well. Another example, was a concert sponsored by the student government was released as a CD by the Allman Brothers. The contract between the student government and Allman Brothers was printed as part of the CD booklet. Also, during the Vietnam years, Stony Brook was a stronghold for the anti-war resistance with the student government leading the way on this effort. It has been my intention to further expand upon many of these stories in the Wiki article but I haven't been able to get around to it. Hope this helps. Moizk (talk) 23:02, 29 December 2012 (UTC)
 * Yes, a "very notable student government within the SUNY system," meaning that the organization is only important to the university, not "the world at large" as described by Notability policy.--GrapedApe (talk) 03:49, 30 December 2012 (UTC)
 * Things that logically fall within a subset category can still be notable to the world at large. Moizk (talk) 18:45, 30 December 2012 (UTC)
 * True. But then why focus on the mico-notability of the subject in defending the macro-notability of this subject?--GrapedApe (talk) 21:23, 30 December 2012 (UTC)


 * Delete - No sigificant coverage in reliable sources that would indicate notability. The large number of references in the articel are primarily to the campus newspaper. -- Whpq (talk) 19:24, 2 January 2013 (UTC)
 * Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.


 * Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Sue Rangell ✍ ✉ 04:12, 5 January 2013 (UTC)


 * Keep Students are a major part of universities. I've normally !voted delete for articles on individual student organizations, even for universities of the great importance of Stony Brook, but an article on the overall organization is a good idea. It provides a place to redirect/merge those articles, for one thing. I deplore the multiplication of articles of minor parts of universities, or second and third and fourth order parts, like a program in a department of a college of a university, but this is a first order part. I agree there is a good deal too much detail. if kept, I volunteer to deal with that, as I have with many similar articles.  DGG ( talk ) 06:55, 5 January 2013 (UTC)
 * Delete I don't see how this is particularly notable apart from student government at other universities. Presidentman talk · contribs (Talkback) 13:08, 5 January 2013 (UTC)
 * Merge with Stony Brook University this is an unduly long article on a subject an org that is directly related to the university and could not exist without it. BO &#124; Talk 15:07, 5 January 2013 (UTC)
 * Delete or [very] selectively merge. Grotesquely, almost absurdly detailed article on a student group at a single school.  Despite the almost comical level of detail (and a flowchart!!), not a word of it asserts how it is in any way different from the exact same group at nearly every other school in the world. No objection to a very selective merge into a student life section of the school's article, though whoever takes that on has my pity. Andrew Lenahan -  St ar bli nd  19:52, 9 January 2013 (UTC)
 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.