Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Unfettered


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The result was move to incubator. Article Incubator/Unfettered  Spinning Spark  16:02, 24 November 2012 (UTC)

Unfettered

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I feel a little bad nominating this for AfD given that this book goes towards a good cause, but here's the problem: this hasn't received any in-depth coverage in a source that is both reliable and independent of the publisher, authors, Suvudu, or anyone else that is otherwise involved with Speakman. (Speakman is a blogger for Suvudu.) It also doesn't help that the article has non neutral and borderline promotional language such as "anyone who purchases a signed edition of Speakman's The Dark Thorn will get a first crack at the corresponding number for the Unfettered release". I feel bad for Speakman and if he had an article on here I'd be more than willing to have this redirect to his page, but he doesn't and this book just doesn't pass notability guidelines at this time. I'm open to suggestions, but I want to stress to anyone coming into this AfD that you must have a suggestion that is feasible and any sources given must be reliable for this to pas WP:NBOOK. The book does not inherit notability by having notable authors publishing for it, no matter how wonderful the cause is. (WP:NOTINHERITED) I'd also like to state beforehand that AfDs are not decided on a vote. (WP:NOTAVOTE) Tokyogirl79 (talk) 08:35, 10 November 2012 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Literature-related deletion discussions. Tokyogirl79 (talk) 08:37, 10 November 2012 (UTC)


 * Delete Yes I feel bad for nominating Delete under the circumstances, although he beat cancer so great news in the big picture and Obamacare is no longer threatened so hopefully no one will be w/out health insurance ever again. Back to the AfD: it's a case of WP:TOOSOON and WP:CRYSTAL, the rules are pretty clear, we need multiple independent reliable sources that discuss the book in depth. With books that is usually achieved with book reviews (WP:NBOOK). The current sources are all unreliable from Wikipedia viewpoint (primary source and/or blogs). Probably the book will be reliable sometime in 2013 so recommend saving the current text of the article to User space and wait until sources are available then recreate once notability is assured. -- Green Cardamom (talk) 19:23, 10 November 2012 (UTC)
 * Delete Simply not notable, sorry. --Modern.Jewelry.Historian (talk) 22:12, 16 November 2012 (UTC)
 * Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.


 * Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, -- Cheers, Riley   Huntley  00:10, 17 November 2012 (UTC)


 * Delete Pains me, but fails basic notability. The only halfway RS I found is this, and it's an opinion piece. § FreeRangeFrog 20:46, 17 November 2012 (UTC)
 * comment Fits nicely in with WP:CRYSTAL - it hasn't even been published yet. I suggest that it be incubated somewhere until it comes out.  There are certainly enough well-known authors in it that it will likely be kept in 2013.   Th e S te ve   05:13, 19 November 2012 (UTC)
 * I have no problems with the article being incubated.Tokyogirl79 (talk) 06:21, 19 November 2012 (UTC)
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