Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Unicorn (band)


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.  

The result was RENAME to The Cosmic Storyteller and REWRITE to make it clear that this is a 2001 album by Hilary Clay Hicks and not actually a lost album by the non-existant band Unicorn (as distinguinged from the real band Unicorn). Herostratus 17:02, 6 September 2006 (UTC)

Unicorn (band)
Fails WP:BAND, article is unsourced and some parts of it have apparently been copied from the bands website. Fritz Saalfeld (Talk) 17:59, 27 August 2006 (UTC)
 * Keep. Article is unsourced though that's not to say it's unsourcable. Removal of info copied from the band website would still leave an article about a band notable for the fact that over 30 years after their breakup, their album was released. Improve it, don't delete it. Mallanox 18:06, 27 August 2006 (UTC)
 * Keep Delete 34,000 G-hits for "Unicorn Cosmic Storyteller". Album has "lost" material featuring musicians with their own wiki entries - Steppenwolf (band) The Association Rick Nelson etc. Notable enough to me Dina 18:46, 27 August 2006 (UTC) (I guess they wouldn't be hoaxes if some of us didn't get taken in.) Dina 19:38, 27 August 2006 (UTC)
 * From what I understand the whole band is a hoax (which would also mean the whole article is false) and none of the members of those bands really contributed to the album, as far as I can see. --Fritz Saalfeld (Talk) 18:57, 27 August 2006 (UTC)
 * Do you have any evidence that this is a hoax? The album can be bought on Amazon. Mallanox 19:04, 27 August 2006 (UTC)
 * In the very comment that you are replying to xe pointed to an AllMusic entry that said outright that this band was a put-on, created by Hilary Clay Hicks. Uncle G 19:09, 27 August 2006 (UTC)
 * It is interesting that you should mention the album being for sale on Amazon. There's a review of the album Cosmic Storyteller on its Amazon page by one very dissatisfied customer who was apparently looking for an album by a real band named Unicorn, from the 1970s. Uncle G 19:22, 27 August 2006 (UTC)
 * Ok, I've had a listen to it and it doesn't sound like it was made in the 60s though that's by no means water-tight. If this is a hoax then maybe it should be judged as to whether it's a notable hoax. Given that it's available to buy, I would suggest that it is. This is certainly a fascinating subject and I am going to try and find out more. Mallanox 19:48, 27 August 2006 (UTC)
 * I cannot find anything of any real use. It is still my opinion that it is a hoax and I stand by my previous assertion that it should remain on wikipedia reclassified as a "genuine" hoax. Mallanox 11:36, 6 September 2006 (UTC)


 * Comment I'm trying to figure this out and I'm still confused. The album appears to not be by the band Unicorn but by a woman named Hilary Clay Hicks and is sort of a hoax in the vein of Platinum Weird.  The album exists, and can be bought -- it just isn't a "lost" recording.  But did the band really exist at some point and she just took their story?  Or is the whole thing a hoax?  Dina 19:12, 27 August 2006 (UTC)
 * There was an unrelated band with the same name in the seventies, as Uncel G already mentioned above. I'd guess this one is completely made up. --Fritz Saalfeld (Talk) 19:30, 27 August 2006 (UTC)
 * There was a real band in the 70's called Unicorn who had Dave Gilmour produce one of their albums see . It also lists this band with Cosmic Storyteller listed as their sole album see . It doesn't have any text for the band but the album review states "Lost artifact of the psychedelic era? Pseudo-Spinal Tap put on? Modernist pop/psychedelia? The Cosmic Storyteller is all of these things. The brainchild of singer/producer/singer Hilary Clay Hicks, these tracks attributed to Unicorn make up a "lost" 1960s album that embraces several different musical genres, and does so with a classy sense of spirit and style." Please note that this All Music Guide tells a different story to the article. We don't have an article on Ms Hicks and nor does All Music Guide. In conclusion, I would support keeping an article on the 70s group as they clearly meet WP:MUSIC. An article on this group is marginal although we would have to make sure it was verifiable and it would need significant changes. Capitalistroadster 20:11, 27 August 2006 (UTC)
 * It's problematic, isn't it? On the one hand we have AllMusic saying that this band is a complete invention from whole cloth, and Amazon reviewers (and Wikipedia editors) saying that this album certainly doesn't sound as if it were a product of the 1960s.  On the other hand, we have the web site for the album, and the album's own blurb, neither of which are independent of the album's creator(s), giving this giant history of a band whose music was supposedly "lost" for 34 years.  Then, in order to muddy the issue even further, we have people accusing Platinum Weird of stealing the story of Unicorn, and a completely separate real band named Unicorn. Uncle G 20:31, 27 August 2006 (UTC)
 * Rename to Cosmic Storyteller, make that article an explanation of the hoax, delete the redirect, and write a new article about the 70s band. User:Zoe|(talk) 21:21, 27 August 2006 (UTC)
 * Rename' per Zoe, but add a topline disambig to Cosmic Storyteller on the real band's article. Thryduulf 08:12, 6 September 2006 (UTC)
 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.