Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/United Kingdom declaration of war upon Germany (1939)


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The result was Redirect to Neville Chamberlain's European Policy. --DHeyward (talk) 06:53, 10 March 2013 (UTC)

United Kingdom declaration of war upon Germany (1939)

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Would be better off in Wikiquotes. Wikipedia is not for this purpose.  Kinkreet ~&#9829;moshi moshi&#9829;~ 22:05, 2 March 2013 (UTC)

Reply: There was a link from this page with no page at the end of it, so I thought it was worth adding this. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2.101.168.83 (talk) 22:09, 2 March 2013 (UTC)


 * Keep Redirect. While the article consists mostly of a verbatim reproduction of the speech/declaration, it has potential to be developed beyond the current stubby state with analysis or greater historical context. The verbatim speech may be better off on Wikisource, though.  — daranz [ t ] 22:32, 2 March 2013 (UTC) As AJHingston points out below, the topic is already covered at Neville Chamberlain's European Policy. A redirect would make sense.  — daranz [ t ] 01:23, 3 March 2013 (UTC)


 * Keep There doesn't seem to be an article about the outbreak of WW2 and so this might be a good seed or kernel upon which to base it. For an example of a source detailing the broadcasts of Daladier and Chamberlain and the accompanying negotiations, see Public Opinion and the End of Appeasement in Britain and France. Warden (talk) 23:42, 2 March 2013 (UTC)


 * Merge This isn't specific enough to be its own article. Maybe put it somewhere like here: Military history of the United Kingdom during World War II. Mrmoustache14 (talk) 23:57, 2 March 2013 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Germany-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k (talk) 00:41, 3 March 2013 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of United Kingdom-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k (talk) 00:41, 3 March 2013 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Military-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k (talk) 00:41, 3 March 2013 (UTC)


 * Delete While Wikipedia could certainly have an article on this important topic, this article contains no useful content - the quote belongs at Wikiquote, and there's nothing else here. WP:TNT seems in order. Nick-D (talk) 00:59, 3 March 2013 (UTC)
 * Delete A fork of Neville Chamberlain's European Policy (arguably not the best title, but this and much more is contained there). There is much more that can be said on the diplomatic moves leading up to, and resulting, in the British ultimatum and its rejection, but this adds nothing. (The diplomatic correspondence was published on the British side in a White Paper Cmd 6106 in September 1939 and a great deal has been written since, of course). --AJHingston (talk) 01:06, 3 March 2013 (UTC)
 * I should probably add that the quoted speech was not, technically, the declaration of war, it was merely announcing to the public what had occurred. Its nearest comparison is FDR's Infamy Speech which gets its own article as well as another on the US declaration of war itself. Both Chamberlain's and FDR's speeches are equally notable, and there is a case for better and fuller treatment of the whole topic of the outbreak of war in Europe in September 1939, but this is not the way. --AJHingston (talk) 15:39, 4 March 2013 (UTC)


 * Redirect to Neville Chamberlain's European Policy, content is the exact duplicate of part of that section of the article. No need to duplicate content, a redirect appears to be in order.--RightCowLeftCoast (talk) 16:05, 3 March 2013 (UTC)
 * Comment. The topic may be notable, but as things stand, the quote should be moved to wikiquotes, and the one sentence article redirected to something more meaty. If this is expanded, ping me and I'll see if I can revise my vote for keep. --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus&#124; reply here 08:59, 4 March 2013 (UTC)
 * Trnaswikify the quote, then redirect to Neville Chamberlain's European Policy. I doubt that we reeally need the full quote even there.  Peterkingiron (talk) 13:22, 4 March 2013 (UTC)
 * Note: Part of the text is already on Wikisource, at s:War with Germany declared. The text in the article is a bit longer than the WS text. The WS text corresponds to the recording on Commons, which does not contain the speech to the extent that it is given in the article.  — daranz [ t ] 01:15, 5 March 2013 (UTC)
 * Comment Is this relevant?  Kinkreet ~&#9829;moshi moshi&#9829;~ 09:13, 8 March 2013 (UTC)
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