Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/United Kingdom general election debates, 2009-2010


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was   no consensus. I suggest that a renomination or merger should be considered if and as soon as it is clear that the debates won't happen.  Sandstein  05:53, 6 October 2009 (UTC)

United Kingdom general election debates, 2009-2010

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This article is incredibly premature and is predominantly conjecture. Gordon Brown is reported to be considering these debates, and even if he agrees to the idea there is no assurance they will take place at all or in the manner described. I42 (talk) 22:17, 28 September 2009 (UTC)


 * Keep, the Prime Minister is going to announce this in his conference speech and David Cameron has been calling for a leaders debate for years now. Also, Sky News has said it will hold a debate 'with or without Gordon Brown' (Cameron and Clegg have already agreed to take part). I feel the likelihood of these debates passes the threshold needed to have an article. --Philip Stevens (talk) 22:34, 28 September 2009 (UTC)
 * It is quite possible that events will pan out as you predict - indeed, by the time this AfD comes to an end the situation may be much clearer. But as of now your article makes assertions which simply cannot be made. There is no rush - the article can be created when the facts are known. I42 (talk) 05:45, 29 September 2009 (UTC)
 * Update Gordon Brown did not say he would do the debate during the conference speech. When questioned, he said he has made up his mind, but will say what his decision is at an appropriate time. HonouraryMix (talk) 14:57, 30 September 2009 (UTC)
 * Indeed, the BBC is now reporting that Gordon Brown is saying it is not the "right time" for an announcement. This, IMO, should certainly see the article deleted but does not affect my deletion rationale - there should never have been this speculation in the first place. I42 (talk) 15:38, 30 September 2009 (UTC)


 * Delete per WP:CRYSTAL. It's very difficult for a future event that may or may not take place to be notable; this article is premature and can be recreated (at the earliest) when the possibility of their future existence has some real and notable effect on the socio-political landscape. - DustFormsWords (talk) 04:40, 29 September 2009 (UTC)
 * Postpone Debate There is a good change that this will be confirmed or rejected This week it would make more sense to have this debate after the Labour Conference. Otherwise Keep; there is enough media debate raging to source an article on the positions of the parties on whether to have one or not. --Natet/c 12:22, 29 September 2009 (UTC)


 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of United Kingdom-related deletion discussions. Thryduulf (talk) 11:01, 29 September 2009 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Politics-related deletion discussions. Thryduulf (talk) 11:01, 29 September 2009 (UTC)


 * Userfy until we know one way or the other. Chris Neville-Smith (talk) 13:00, 29 September 2009 (UTC)
 * Keep. BBC, ITV and Sky are now well in the process of making arrangements for this. Should these debates not go ahead, the fact that arrangements were advanced this far will be notable in itself. (Possibly something to merge, but choices between keep and merge aren't really AfD material.) Chris Neville-Smith (talk) 16:29, 2 October 2009 (UTC)
 * By the same reasoning, David Cameron's first year in office, 2010-11 would be acceptable - it's a well discussed possibility, after all. But still something which cannot be predicted with certainty. Discussion of that eventuality may well belong in WP, but not in that form. Same for this article. I42 (talk) 08:07, 4 October 2009 (UTC)


 * Redirect to Next United Kingdom general election until the event is confirmed. -- Explodicle (T/C) 13:23, 29 September 2009 (UTC)
 * Delete Author's rationale that Brown would say during the latest Labour conference that he would participate has not come to pass. If and when the Prime Minister agrees, I'll be the first person to call for this to be kept.  For the time being, though, there are too many question marks over the whole thing. HonouraryMix (talk) 14:06, 1 October 2009 (UTC)
 * Merge the verifiable information about it to Next United Kingdom general election. If they happen and become too much for that article, then it can be spun out as a standalone article again. Thryduulf (talk) 16:25, 1 October 2009 (UTC)


 * Update, the Prime Minister has agreed "in principle" to take part in TV debates. --Philip Stevens (talk) 11:25, 3 October 2009 (UTC)
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