Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/United States presidential election, 2020 (2nd nomination)


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was Keep per WP:SNOW and withdrawal by OP. — JFG talk 08:15, 1 March 2017 (UTC) (non-admin closure)

United States presidential election, 2020
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Aside from when the election will take place and eligibility bits, this article is full of unconfirmed speculation; nobody has even officially announced they'll be running for office that year, and that won't happen until at least 2018. There's nothing truly solid to work with at the moment and there won't be for another year at earliest. Clear case of WP:TOOSOON. Snuggums (talk / edits) 18:39, 25 February 2017 (UTC)
 * Keep This was snow kept in 2015. Why would we delete it now, in 2017? Per WP:CRYSTAL: "Individual scheduled or expected future events should be included only if the event is notable and almost certain to take place. Dates are not definite until the event actually takes place. If preparation for the event is not already in progress, speculation about it must be well documented. Examples of appropriate topics include the 2020 U.S. presidential election and 2024 Summer Olympics." There's not much to say about it yet but a stub article is fine to have since we know that it will happen (barring apocalypse). – Muboshgu (talk) 18:45, 25 February 2017 (UTC)
 * Keep While I can agree on certain aspects of Snuggums' nomination (e.g. candidates), this article can certainly stand alone and so not WP:TOOSOON. It is an event that will definitely happen. Per Moboshgu, if we were to use this tactic with every "too soon" articles, we wouldn't have articles like 2018 FIFA World Cup, 2018 Winter Olympics, 2020 Summer Olympics, 2022 Winter Olympics, 2022 FIFA World Cup, 2024 Summer Olympics, 2018 United States elections, United States elections, 2020 (and its senate, house and congress articles as well) and so forth. Callmemirela  🍁  &#123;Talk&#125;   &#9809;  19:06, 25 February 2017 (UTC)
 * Keep while it is a legitimate issue to raise concerns about some of the speculative content of the article, I think there is clear precedent for retaining it. Most articles on national elections have a next election article even if that is likely to be four or five years hence ( eg Next Scottish Parliament election is scheduled to be in 2021). There has already been some polling done and some hypothetical discussion by serious commentators. As argued above it does not breach WP:TOOSOON. Dunarc (talk) 19:43, 25 February 2017 (UTC)
 * Keep There's already plenty of sources for several candidates, and the incumbent president is actively running for re-election. Earthscent (talk) 19:48, 25 February 2017 (UTC)
 * Keep, per above. Jay Coop &middot;&#32;Talk &middot;&#32;Contributions 19:53, 25 February 2017 (UTC)
 * Keep I agree with everything you guys have said so far. PiratePablo (talk) 19:58, 25 February 2017 (UTC)
 * Withdrawing while WP:LASTTIME and WP:OTHERSTUFF aren't good points as noted on WP:Arguments to avoid in deletion discussions, I hadn't noticed how WP:CRYSTAL said this was actually fine to have. Regardless, the speculative content is a major issue and doesn't belong on Wikipedia. Snuggums (talk / edits) 20:18, 25 February 2017 (UTC)
 * That can be addressed on the talk page. I agree that there should be some guidelines on how and when we should add candidates. Callmemirela  🍁  &#123;Talk&#125;   &#9809;  20:36, 25 February 2017 (UTC)
 * Keep: Donald Trump has already held his first campaign event for the 2020 election. The speculative candidate section removal has already been proposed. Please discuss at the talk page. Prcc27❄ (talk) 22:33, 25 February 2017 (UTC)
 * Regarding WP:LASTTIME, you were making a WP:TOOSOON argument that wasn't found to have merit 16 months ago, so obviously it would be an even weaker argument now. – Muboshgu (talk) 23:34, 25 February 2017 (UTC)
 * Delete per TOOSOON. It's too early to say if the US will (a) survive or (b) remain a democracy under Trump. Clarityfiend (talk) 01:40, 26 February 2017 (UTC)
 * Keep-Per above. I also note that Clarityfiend should also keep his delusional fulminations off Wikipedia. Display name 99 (talk) 02:23, 26 February 2017 (UTC)
 * Hey, don't you recognize humor when you see it? Hint: that's what the small font means. Clarityfiend (talk) 03:46, 28 February 2017 (UTC)
 * I had a feeling you might have been kidding, but you probably should've put a strike through your text to further emphasize that it wasn't meant to be taken seriously in the deletion process. No harm done, though :) -- Molandfreak  (talk,   contribs,  email) 04:52, 1 March 2017 (UTC)


 * SNOW Keep, per above.-- Molandfreak  (talk,   contribs,  email) 03:28, 26 February 2017 (UTC)
 * Keep: As above. Guyb123321 (talk) 21:12, 26 February 2017 (UTC)
 * Keep, per above. There's been plenty of talk about the next election. -- Amaryllis Gardener  talk 21:47, 26 February 2017 (UTC)
 * Keep per above. --Deansfa (talk) 00:28, 27 February 2017 (UTC)]
 * Speedy Keep --  CatcherStorm    talk   20:50, 27 February 2017 (UTC)
 * Requesting closure. Nom has been withdrawn. MB298 (talk) 04:32, 27 February 2017 (UTC)
 * WITHDRAWN Bueller? Bueller? – Muboshgu (talk) 22:20, 28 February 2017 (UTC)


 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.