Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/United States presidential election in Georgia, 1980


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was keep. Overall consensus is for the article to be retained. North America1000 01:35, 6 June 2015 (UTC)

United States presidential election in Georgia, 1980

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This short article is entirely redundant to United States presidential election, 1980. It includes nothing not already in the larger article, so there is nothing to merge. It is not likely to ever be more than a stub. It should be deleted. Possibly a redirect to the larger article should be created, but I question the worth of even this. DES (talk) 23:24, 21 May 2015 (UTC)

*Keep: Election articles like this are noteworthy. It was one of only six states that Carter carried in his 1980 campaign, which makes it notable as one of the few Carter carried. Also, I've seen several election articles like this on Wikipedia, such as this one, this one, this one, as well as countless others. Considering the fact that a major election happened in the state, yes, I would say it is worthy of an article. SilverSurfingSerpant (talk) 01:03, 22 May 2015 (UTC) (user hass been blocked as a sock puppet-- TRPoD aka The Red Pen of Doom  03:36, 29 May 2015 (UTC))
 * That fact that Carter won Georgia but few other states is noteworthy, but it is highlighted by the colors and data in the results table in United States presidential election, 1980, and could and should be in the prose there as well. I am inclined to think that most similar articles, at least if they contain no more content than this, should also be deleted, so WP:OTHERSTUFFEXISTS is not persuasive. I would say that it is incorrect to state that "a major election happened in the state" -- rather a major election happened in the country, of which the state was a part. Otherwise we could have United States presidential election in XYZ county, 1980. Now if there were content about the specifics of the election in Georgia, the ways in which local issues or events affected the election or its results, which would be too particular to fit into the overall article on the elections, then such a sub-article would be justified. But there is none of that in the article as it now stands. DES (talk) 16:19, 22 May 2015 (UTC)
 * Keep Major election, and as mentioned above, very similar stuff exists. Passes WP:NEVENT. Joseph2302 (talk) 01:07, 22 May 2015 (UTC)
 * Redirect to United States presidential election, 1980.  Flat Out  '' talk to me 03:00, 22 May 2015 (UTC)
 * Redirect to United States presidential election, 1980. I have seen many of these articles created over the past year or two, and I have had my doubts about their meaningfulness. However, DES is completely right when they point out that it is redundant to the main United States presidential election, 1980, as this contains the detailed results by state, making this and all the other state articles rather pointless. I don't understand how these articles could be expanded more beyond their current stubbiness, nor what the point in doing so would be; this was a national election, not a state one. Number   5  7  21:54, 22 May 2015 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of United States of America-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k (talk) 18:50, 23 May 2015 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Georgia (U.S. state)-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k (talk) 18:51, 23 May 2015 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Events-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k (talk) 18:51, 23 May 2015 (UTC)
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 Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
 * Keep as a notable event. In the United States, each state conducts its own election for presidential electors, making the election in each state separate and notable.--TM 20:22, 23 May 2015 (UTC)
 * Comment I know about WP:OTHERSTUFF, and I wouldn't advocate this must be kept/deleted because we have/don't have that. But, please see United States presidential election in New York, 1980 and Template:State Results of the 1980 U.S. presidential election and you will see that this article is one of a large series, and should be seen in context. I think it is not warranted to just single out one of hundreds of articles (50 per year), and nominate it for deletion. Fact is that the US presidential elections are held statewide independently, only the result of the vote of the state's electoral college is later forwarded to Washington, D.C. Also, the event is notable, without any doubt. The only question is whether Wikipedia policy allows to split the statewide elections from the main article with the countrywide result. There is certainly enough in-depth coverage for the election in any state, and sometimes there are different candidates (not all minor candidates go on the ballot in each state) and different party names (in New York it is forbidden to use the word "American" on the ballot, so the "American Party" appeared under different names. All these facts can be explained in articles state by state, and more detailed interpretations of the results can be added, especially in case of contentious elections. Kraxler (talk) 16:08, 28 May 2015 (UTC)

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Davewild (talk) 06:47, 29 May 2015 (UTC)
 * Strong keep - subject meets notability and required sources; every US election has this broken down by state, and it's silly to argue it meets notability in one state but not another, and have to analyze these one by one. All of these should be approached as a whole. —Мандичка YO 😜 06:57, 29 May 2015 (UTC)
 * Self-loathing keep: I knew a person who totally warned everyone that this kind of granularity was coming. He also warned that "little school house totally rocks" was coming. Well, he was against it, and I agree with him. However, once the barn door is open, the horses are in the field, the cows are in the pasture, and the milk has been spilled, there ain't no point trying to put the toothpaste back in the tube. There is no reason to deprecate Georgia, the home state of the virtuous man who lost the election in 1980, as it is the largest state east of the Mississippi and all that. Hithladaeus (talk) 14:01, 29 May 2015 (UTC)
 * Keep - Either you nominate em all for bloc consideration or don't bother at all. You can't onesy-towsey here and leave the rest of the state articles up, it'd be absurd. Tarc (talk) 15:38, 29 May 2015 (UTC)
 * Keep State presidential elections are considered notable as per long standing consensus. Winner 42 Talk to me!  17:46, 29 May 2015 (UTC)


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