Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/United States presidential line of succession in fiction


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The result was delete. Liz Read! Talk! 03:48, 15 September 2022 (UTC)

United States presidential line of succession in fiction

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We can debate whether the Lists of fictional presidents of the United States, split into several poorly referenced subarticles, is notable; I am sure some would think so. Perhaps (and if you do, please try to improve the mentioned list). But I digress. What we have here is... well, a very minor concept that fails WP:NLIST or WP:GNG. The article/list is effectively unreferenced (there is a single footnote to a primary source in the form of a non-notable podcast). It's a big pile of WP:FANCRUFT, failing WP:IPC of course, and I don't think this even merits a redirect anywhere. Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus&#124; reply here 03:39, 8 September 2022 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Fictional elements, Politics, Lists,  and United States of America. Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus&#124; reply here  03:39, 8 September 2022 (UTC)
 * Delete. Both WP:NLIST and WP:GNG require multiple independent reliable sources providing significant coverage of the topic or group. Podcasts are not generally accepted as reliable sources, except possibly in the case of a recognized authority speaking within their field of expertise. I was immediately skeptical of finding Reliable sources, and this is a rather challenging criteria to use search engines for, but nonetheless I attempted (1) General Google search (2) Google News and (3) Google Scholar. I found nothing. For what it's worth, I suspect this Google Scholar search would be the best hope for a deep and exhausting search attempt. I am reasonably convinced these sources don't exist, but as always I'm willing to reconsider based on sources presented by anyone else. Alsee (talk) 07:42, 8 September 2022 (UTC)
 * Delete As of now this is just a list of examples in various fiction, and there does not appear to be any sources to show the concept as a whole is notable. Any sources discussing the concept in general I think would be better suited as a section in United States presidential line of succession rather than it's own article. Rhino131 (talk) 12:48, 8 September 2022 (UTC)
 * Delete - Not only is this just a list of TV Tropes style trivia without any reliable sources, there is no evidence that the topic even passes WP:LISTN. If any legit sources on the topic are found, they should be added to the main United States presidential line of succession article, as suggested by Rhino131, as this list of trivia should not remain. Rorshacma (talk) 14:41, 8 September 2022 (UTC)
 * Delete per nom. and all of the above commenters. Fails WP:GNG and WP:NLIST. Sal2100 (talk) 16:37, 8 September 2022 (UTC)
 * Delete Fails WP:LISTN and almost reads like a fancruft. GenuineArt (talk) 16:49, 8 September 2022 (UTC)
 * Delete per above. Retinalsummer (talk) 15:31, 9 September 2022 (UTC)
 * Delete the nominator is correct. Bruxton (talk) 02:11, 13 September 2022 (UTC)
 * Delete. Till someone finds notability proofs for the list itself. --Suitskvarts (talk) 17:14, 14 September 2022 (UTC)
 * Delete. Doesn't have significant coverage in multiple independent reliable sources, and doesn't meet WP:NLIST and WP:GNG. Shooterwalker (talk) 17:20, 14 September 2022 (UTC)


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