Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Unity is Strength (Australia)


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was delete. No significant coverage found. Pax:Vobiscum (talk) 17:08, 26 March 2020 (UTC)

Unity is Strength (Australia)

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The only source is something called "The Institute of Australian Culture", a Wordpress site. I can't find anything showing notability, but there is a Stormfront post saying "Are you aware of an old Australian Nationalist song that has been suppressed for over a century called "Unity is Strength"? I have contacted Onenation.com but they are exceedingly slow to post this important song on the Internet - so I am asking for your help in promoting this important song. The tune is the same as "Men of Harlech" (the song from the "Zulu" movie we all love). I think this would make a great song for White Nationalist worldwide if the lyrics were adjusted for that purpose. The current lyrics pertain to Australia in the late 1800's are are printed below. Please help me with this mission, Comrades!!!" Doug Weller talk 14:31, 6 March 2020 (UTC)
 * Delete. I won't even get into the erroneous way the subject is described in this stub, as I can't find any indication of notability. Bishonen &#124; tålk 17:06, 6 March 2020 (UTC).
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Albums and songs-related deletion discussions. Shellwood (talk) 14:50, 6 March 2020 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Australia-related deletion discussions. Shellwood (talk) 14:50, 6 March 2020 (UTC)


 * Delete - There is evidence that the song was published in 1898:, but no evidence that it was ever noticed enough to confer notability. It appears that "Unity is Strength" is a common slogan in Australian history, and that shows up in searches, but I can find no commentary on this song except from the shady organizations detected by the nominator. Let's add Wikipedia to the conspiracy of websites that refuse to allow idiots to fantasize that an unknown song from 122 years ago was written about them and how its suppression is holding them back from greatness. ---  DOOMSDAYER 520 (Talk&#124;Contribs) 17:42, 6 March 2020 (UTC)
 * Part of my comment above may have polluted the ensuing discussion so I struck it out. My vote remains the same, although we can see below that the song has some additional notice in Australian history. If that helps with notability, the article needs serious expansion beyond a mere mention of the song's existence. ---  DOOMSDAYER 520 (Talk&#124;Contribs) 18:50, 9 March 2020 (UTC)


 * Delete - a single sentence for the whole entry! Topic is too specific and brief to devote a page to this. Teraplane (talk) 23:57, 6 March 2020 (UTC)
 * Weak keep Keep because at this point more searching needs to be done I think. I was going for delete, but I was surprised by what is actually reported.  As per DOOMSDAYER520's ref there is a lot of reporting around 1898/99.  Not sure why but on a hunch I looked a bit further and there is multiple reporting aorund 1901, eg, and around 1903, eg, and around 1910, eg, and around 1940, eg, .  Weak because all I could find so far are essentially mentions, and while they demonstate sustained, and probably another two short sentences could be added to the article based on such as the above, there is nothing anywhere near in-depth so far.  Aoziwe (talk) 12:55, 7 March 2020 (UTC)


 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Politics-related deletion discussions. Coolabahapple (talk) 02:51, 8 March 2020 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of History-related deletion discussions. Coolabahapple (talk) 02:51, 8 March 2020 (UTC)


 * Comment, this song, written in 1898, appears to have been written to further the case for Federation, the lyrics were reproduced in full at the time in numerous newspapers, especially in Victoria, including Weekly Times here, The Herald here, Colac Herald here, The Robertson Mail here, Broadford Courier and Reedy Creek Times here, Gippsland Times here, so appears to be well known at the time, but apart from the mentions found by  above, there doesn't appear to be much else. Coolabahapple (talk) 04:21, 8 March 2020 (UTC)

 Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
 * Comment - coolabah is closer to the mark, by actually using what should be used for australian items (Trove) - it would be the possibility of an editor who can think sufficiently sideways to find an existing article in which the material could be productively placed before the inevitable google emptiness takes over and it is deleted... JarrahTree 09:42, 8 March 2020 (UTC)

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, 78.26  (spin me / revolutions) 14:47, 17 March 2020 (UTC)
 * Another Comment - I'm sure another comment here doesn't help much, but I voted above. Given this discussion, it appears that "Unity is Strength" is well-known political slogan in Australian history, used in many environments including this song. Therefore there could possibly be an article on the slogan, but focusing on this particular song may be the wrong way to go. ---  DOOMSDAYER 520 (Talk&#124;Contribs) 01:34, 19 March 2020 (UTC)
 * Delete No evidence of notability. Cheers, 1292simon (talk) 12:18, 25 March 2020 (UTC)

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 * Comment I am practicing interpreting consensus and by no mean to imply my interpretation has any power in the actual closing. Closer please go ahead to conduct your own interpretation and action. Here I interpret the consensus to be a delete for lack of evidence of notability. xinbenlv  Talk, Remember to "ping" me 19:30, 25 March 2020 (UTC)


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