Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Universal Soul (3rd nomination)


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was delete. Ritchie333 (talk) (cont)  20:38, 9 August 2018 (UTC)

Universal Soul
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AFD nr.3. PROD was removed. I will give an extended explaination why this article should be deleted. There are no reliable sources, only YouTube and Myspace. The article states they won awards, but there are no sources to verify this. A quick google search finds no proof of this. Also there is some minor POV this like inspired other artists while not having sources for this and it fails WP:NMUSIC &raquo; Shadowowl  &#124;  talk  15:20, 17 July 2018 (UTC)
 * Delete mostly per nom. Little-to-no references found in a google search; article has 5 citations, 4 of which are YouTube videos, 1 of which is an expired/archived link. Subject fails WP:NBAND. -- HunterM267  talk 16:18, 17 July 2018 (UTC)
 * Delete Fails WP:NBAND. Lack of reliable source coverage to prove any sort of notability. PohranicniStraze (talk) 17:30, 17 July 2018 (UTC)
 * Comment Also, since the ECMA award has come up, I don't believe it is enough to establish notability under WP:NBAND criteria #8. Since the band in question is Canadian, a Juno Award would suffice, but the ECMA is not in that caliber. PohranicniStraze (talk) 04:37, 18 July 2018 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Bands and musicians-related deletion discussions. Thanks,L3X1  ◊distænt write◊  17:54, 17 July 2018 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Nova Scotia-related deletion discussions. Thanks,L3X1  ◊distænt write◊  17:54, 17 July 2018 (UTC)

 Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
 * Keep – Hoping the 3rd time is the charm with regards to AFD? Group has generated enough coverage in Europe, especially in the Scandivain Countries, as shown here,, to be included here at Wikipedia.  In the future, before nominating, please do “Before” nominating for deletion.  In addition, they have won a ECMA Award which gives credit for Notability as shown here .  Thanks. ShoesssS Talk 18:11, 17 July 2018 (UTC)
 * The two prior AfD discussions were speedy closed due to an insufficient explanation by the nom. No other !votes or comments were made, so I'd hardly say a consensus was reached. Further, the first external link you provided yielded no results for me that were explicitly about the band, by my looking. Could you link to some direct references? As for the other source you provided, re the ECMA award - the article is about another band (Sloan) - this subject is only mentioned as one of the performers at the event once - not as having won it. Do you have more references to support your claims? -- HunterM267  talk 19:46, 17 July 2018 (UTC)

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Lourdes  16:33, 24 July 2018 (UTC)  Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
 * Sorry,, the link doesn't show the band won an award, it just states that they performed at the awards ceremony. The ECMA web site only shows that they were nominated in one category (the Bucky Adams memorial Award), which they didn't win. So they've been nominated five times for a regional award without winning: they've won awards in an even more niche award ceremony, but these latter awards aren't notable. Richard3120 (talk) 21:21, 30 July 2018 (UTC)

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Ad Orientem (talk) 01:45, 1 August 2018 (UTC)
 * Delete. Nothing here passes any of WP:NMUSIC's achievement-based criteria — no, they have not won an ECMA, and even if they had the ECMAs aren't major enough to pass NMUSIC's award criterion by themselves if they were the only notability claim being made, and the "African Nova Scotian Music Association Awards" are even less noteworthy than the ECMAs. The awards criterion goes to national awards on the level of the Junos or the Polaris, not to every single regional music award that exists. So the only NMUSIC clause actually in play here is #1, but the "references" here are the band's own MySpace page and a bunch of YouTube videos, not reliable sources for the purposes of meeting NMUSIC #1. Bearcat (talk) 16:38, 3 August 2018 (UTC)


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