Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/University Institute of Engineering and Technology, Kanpur (2nd nomination)


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was merge to Chhatrapati Shahu Ji Maharaj University.  MBisanz  talk 03:32, 28 November 2021 (UTC)

University Institute of Engineering and Technology, Kanpur
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This page clearly warrants a second nomination.

First, there are no references cited in the page. Second, no notability exists with the page and no reliable-independent sources have been cited that show it meets criteria for WP:GNG or WP:ORG; Wiki is not an indiscriminate collection of information. And third, there is no indication it meets criteria for WP:UNIN and WP:SCHOOLOUTCOMES. A quick online search leads to the details that it is a department of Kanpur University and not itself a college or university; the word 'university' is sometimes added in the name of schools to mislead even though it is not. So the de facto rule does not apply. This page qualifies for speedy deletion. Multi7001 (talk) 15:34, 13 November 2021 (UTC)
 * Automated comment: This AfD was not correctly transcluded to the log (step 3). I have transcluded it to Articles for deletion/Log/2021 November 13.  —cyberbot I   Talk to my owner :Online 15:51, 13 November 2021 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Education-related deletion discussions.  Spiderone (Talk to Spider) 16:46, 13 November 2021 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Schools-related deletion discussions.  Spiderone (Talk to Spider) 16:46, 13 November 2021 (UTC)
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 * Let's sift through this. WP:SCHOOLOUTCOMES is an essay about AfD outcomes pertaining to high schools and notability. A quick search on Google led me to find Kanpur University changed its name to Chhatrapati Shahu Ji Maharaj University. This is sounding like an engineering college or another university within a bigger university. Found what looks to be the facility website. I would be more for redirect to Chhatrapati Shahu Ji Maharaj University if notability can't be demonstrated for a stand-alone article. –  The Grid  ( talk )  01:45, 18 November 2021 (UTC)
 * The Grid, if it is regarded as a college or university there needs to be reliable, independent sources to validate that. There is none in the article. Notability is not inherited, so because it may be part of a bigger educational body, that does not mean it should be of inclusion in the encyclopedia. If there are references cited confirming that it is a college or university independent from the subject, then it may warrant a redirect, otherwise, a deletion is necessary. Multi7001 (talk) 23:39, 18 November 2021 (UTC)
 * A redirect has nothing to do about inherited notability, it's an alternative to deletion. Upon looking over WP:RPURPOSE, I meant to state merge to Chhatrapati Shahu Ji Maharaj University. – The Grid  ( talk )  00:12, 19 November 2021 (UTC)
 * A redirect is a form of endorsement and inclusion within the encyclopedia. The point is that there is no indication that establishes notability, and as such, it should not be included at all in the encyclopedia. Since there are no references, and it may possibly qualify for speedy deletion, it would require it to be wiped out from the articlespace. Without any reliable sources, there is no way of validating the true nature of the subject (e.g., if it is a legitimate entity or not; no .edu domain extension is used, posing a possible security risk). Wiki is not an indiscriminate collection of information. Moreover, a merge must be approved based on consensus from other users first, given the nature of the deletion. Multi7001 (talk) 20:40, 19 November 2021 (UTC)

 Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus. Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Extraordinary Writ (talk) 20:15, 20 November 2021 (UTC)
 * Merge selectively into Chhatrapati Shahu Ji Maharaj University, the publicly funded state university of which it is a part. We do not have separate articles for components of universities unless there are sources to support independent notability. The list of departments should be removed and left to the university website. StarryGrandma (talk) 23:49, 20 November 2021 (UTC)


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