Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/University and College Crowdfunding Platforms


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was keep. I close it because the nomination was formally withdrawn, and also the keep arguments dominate.--Ymblanter (talk) 09:15, 8 November 2014 (UTC)

University and College Crowdfunding Platforms

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Runs into problems with WP:LINKFARM and WP:GNG as well as EL/list standards. None of the items on the list have a Wikipedia article (other than the universities themselves, of course) or even a source. &mdash;  Rhododendrites talk  \\ 03:00, 24 October 2014 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Schools-related deletion discussions. NorthAmerica1000 05:41, 25 October 2014 (UTC)
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 * Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.


 * Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, NorthAmerica1000 01:40, 1 November 2014 (UTC)




 * Keep This looks like a useful list and I added a couple of sources for notability on the topic. One from USA Today Universities explore crowdfunding, social media to raise money and another from US News Crowd Funding Tips for Students. --I am One of Many (talk) 05:25, 1 November 2014 (UTC)
 * Thanks for adding the sources, but it's still the case that not one of the items on the list is notable enough to have its own Wikipedia article. I wouldn't be opposed to delete and speedy recreation as a real article rather than a list if you feel the topic is notable. The point is the list items themselves aren't notable (and being useful isn't a reason for keeping something, because lots of things are useful taht aren't encyclopedic). The page as it is is basically a directory listing for colleges to add a link to their crowdfunding platform, which specifically contradicts what WP:NOT. --&mdash;  Rhododendrites talk  \\ 16:00, 1 November 2014 (UTC)
 * Comment One possible solution is simply a name change so that all entries are notable: "University and College Crowdfunding Platforms" --> "Universities and colleges with crowdfunding websites" --I am One of Many (talk) 21:54, 2 November 2014 (UTC)
 * If we determine the list items aren't individually notable as crowdfunding platforms then what's to prevent any article of format "universities and colleges with ___" (e.g. buildings built in 1951, movie theaters, Taco Bells, Moodle servers, freshman-only dormatories...) Moodle and movie theaters are notable subjects, but if specific instances at specific colleges aren't, it just seems inappropriate to have a supposedly encyclopedic list of them. But, again, that doesn't mean there couldn't be an article about university crowdfunding websites that uses some of them as examples. --&mdash;  Rhododendrites talk  \\ 22:13, 2 November 2014 (UTC)
 * I definitely see your point. Perhaps the best approach would be to first turn this article into a stub about the topic. If someone later wanted to add some sort of table, the history would still be there to help that project out. Maybe I'll take a few minutes and do that and see what you think? --I am One of Many (talk) 22:53, 2 November 2014 (UTC)
 * Followup I made it into a stub that could be expanded. Probably a name change to "University and College Crowdfunding" would be a good idea.  What do you think? I am One of Many (talk) 23:21, 2 November 2014 (UTC)
 * Comment I have completely re-worked the article, but it definitely isn't perfect. I agree with the name change, I just don't know how to facilitate that change. laurenwake 12:44, 7 November 2014 (PST)


 * Delete Link aggregation, fundraising, social media tool are a misuse of this venue--Star Log, Lfrankblam, Kirk Out (talk) 07:40, 2 November 2014 (UTC)
 * Procedural close, per following indented comment Delete . An article should not be a collection of links -- which is what this is. As stated in the article, it is "a list of crowdfunding platforms". As a side issue, I see no independent reliable sources showing that any of these sources are even valid crowdsourcing venues, much less notable (one's own website isn't proof -- anyone can create a website). --Larry/Traveling_Man (talk) 16:01, 2 November 2014 (UTC)
 * Since this AfD was opened, the article has in effect been deleted and recreated: it was changed from a list of university and college crowdfunding platforms, into an article about those platforms (with no list). I'd say the AfD should be closed for this reason, with no prejudice to opening a new Afd. I should note that while I haven't yet reviewed the new sources, the article looks promising. --Larry/Traveling_Man (talk) 21:03, 7 November 2014 (UTC)
 * Withdraw - Since the nomination was not the only delete !vote a speedy keep isn't possible, I don't think, but the article is indeed a totally different animal from when I nominated it. Consider this my Delete &rarr; Weak Keep. It could still use more secondary sources, but it's at least a weak keep from me. --&mdash;  Rhododendrites talk  \\ 21:30, 7 November 2014 (UTC)
 * Comment Yup, it is completely different and it would never have happened if you hadn't nominated it for deletion! --I am One of Many (talk) 23:19, 7 November 2014 (UTC)
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