Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/University of California Students Association (2nd nomination)


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The result was   keep. –Juliancolton Tropical Cyclone  01:03, 15 February 2009 (UTC)

University of California Students Association
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No reliable third party sources to establish notability. This article has been tagged as problematic since March 2008, without any improvement. There's really nothing worth merging here. -AndTheElectricMayhem (talk) 17:21, 10 February 2009 (UTC)
 * Delete - NN Cuñado  ☼ -  Talk  22:01, 10 February 2009 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been added to the list of university deletions. &mdash;AndTheElectricMayhem (talk) 00:06, 11 February 2009 (UTC)
 * Keep This is a student organisations which represent what is in practice the major division of a university. Its a long-standing organized body where much of the life of the university takes place. The main student organization of a major university is notableDGG (talk) 01:34, 11 February 2009 (UTC)
 * Comment But, notability is not inherited. Simply because something is a "major" part of something else, doesn't mean that it is notable. Notability must be established by non-trivial coverage coverage in reliable independent sources. This article doesn't satisfy this guideline.--AndTheElectricMayhem (talk) 02:28, 11 February 2009 (UTC)


 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Schools-related deletion discussions.   —TerriersFan (talk) 03:30, 11 February 2009 (UTC)
 * Keep: notable as a political advocacy group as well as a student organization. I've added half a dozen sources, and there are half a dozen more on the article's talk page waiting to be added in, so I'd say the general notability guideline is satisfied.  Article needs expansion/editing, not deletion.  Baileypalblue (talk) 05:40, 11 February 2009 (UTC)
 * Comment This would apply to practically all official student associations/unions (Br). So are they all notable and deserve their own article, or should they be merged into the university's article? Ddawkins73 (talk) 12:35, 11 February 2009 (UTC)
 * How much reliable source coverage do those associations get? If they draw as much public notice as the UCSA does, then articles on them would be presumptively justified.  For what it's worth (not much), one has only to look at Category:United States student societies or Category:Collegiate secret societies to find a great many articles on student groups that are less notable than the politically influential student organization of one of America's largest university systems.  Baileypalblue (talk) 21:04, 11 February 2009 (UTC)
 * Okay, if you're saying it's per case and this one happens to be esp notable. Ddawkins73 (talk) 01:23, 12 February 2009 (UTC)


 * Keep I think articles at state level student Accs are usually likely to be notable, and this one seems to be. Such articles for individual institutes would not be though.Yobmod (talk) 13:48, 12 February 2009 (UTC)


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