Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/University of Georgia College of Environment & Design


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was keep. John254 23:53, 27 March 2008 (UTC)

University of Georgia College of Environment & Design

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There appears to be little information on this university college anywhere. It fails to satisfy notability guidelines because it provides no reliable sources that have significant coverage of the college itself (rather than simply ranking one program in the college). Even with the best architecture program in the country, the college itself is not notable.  Noetic  Sage  18:54, 23 March 2008 (UTC)


 * Note: This debate has been added to the list of university deletions. &mdash; Noetic  Sage  18:56, 23 March 2008 (UTC)


 * Keep: (Disclaimer - I created this article) I believe this article meets notability guidelines. The third party sources quoted are reliable sources ("Material that has been vetted by the scholarly community is regarded as reliable"). Granted the undergrad/grad rankings are short in size, but they are non-trivial - this is a primary organization in that field and they put much work and thought into the rankings. The sources quoted show a continued presence in those rankings by the school.  Also, the College's only undergraduate degree is a Bachelor of Landscape Architecture and the Master of Landscape Architecture is one of two graduate degrees, so the rankings are for the vast majority of college not just a program as mentioned above. It should be noted that the school changed it's name in 2001 so that can pose some difficulty when finding references to the school before that time. There are numerous articles about the school available (they obviously need to be put in the article itself). For example:, , , , , , , , , . George Hargreaves is a notable alumni. Finally, this article already contains more third-party citations than any other school in Category:Landscape architecture schools.  --Roswell native (talk) 20:52, 23 March 2008 (UTC)


 * Speedy keep - This is one of many forks from University of Georgia, which would be a huge article if it included detailed content about all sixteen of its constituent schools and colleges. It would not make much sense to delete this one article, while keeping the other fifteen separate articles for individual schools and colleges within the university. --Orlady (talk) 20:16, 23 March 2008 (UTC)
 * Comment - If you look at any of the other featured university articles, none of them include detailed content about all of their constituent colleges. Furthermore, many of these schools do not have subarticles for these constituent colleges. I would argue that the University of Georgia article should not have this detailed information. Wikipedia is not a guide to education or all the different academic programs in each university. I also agree that it would not make much sense to delete this while keeping the other 15 articles, which is why they should be deleted as well.— Noetic  Sage  20:25, 23 March 2008 (UTC)
 * Comment - Well, if that's your perspective, please don't simply delete the articles. Instead, merge the content back into the parent article. When contributors heed the guidance at Article size by splitting off article components that appear to them to have stand-alone notability, only to have the split-off articles deleted, articles like University of Georgia end up with content about peripheral topics like the history of individual campus buildings, but without content about the university's academic programs. --Orlady (talk) 20:55, 23 March 2008 (UTC)
 * Keep Classic breakout article per WP:SIZE. Fairly well sourced all by itself though, enough for a weak keep.    Hobit (talk) 02:02, 24 March 2008 (UTC)
 * Up-Merge and Delete I sympathize with User:Roswell native and understand where User:Orlady's rebuttal on article size, but I've read through the article, and it really doesn't seem like there's enough notability. Name change's been noted, alumni noted, but this is almost (if not exactly) like Articles for deletion/Florida Institute of Technology/College of Engineering, which was deleted without redirect after I moved it into a new list of every single college at Florida Tech.  I'm not saying that since my article was deleted this one should be too, just saying that the circumstances are similar enough to bring them into comparison.  Advice about bickering the reason behind an editor nominating an article for deletion is to be proactive about the deletion process and seek a way to save/salvage the information yourself.  If you really want this information to be merged, copy this article into your personal user sandbox, and if/when the article is deleted, merge it into the main university article yourself.  It's really that simple.   - Jameson L. Tai   talk  ♦  contribs  04:03, 24 March 2008 (UTC)
 * Keep and expand  The major divisions of a university are notable, because enough important things can be said and sourced about them. It would be notable if free-standing, and it's no less notable though it is part of a larger unit. There is major potential for growth, and if a merge is proposed I will surely oppose it.   It seems something was done inappropriately on another article, and that should be reconsidered, not used as a precedent.  DGG (talk) 05:06, 24 March 2008 (UTC)
 * Keep and expand Schools and colleges that comprise major research universities, of which UGA is one, are generally notable considering the far reaching impact in scientific understanding within the school's particular scope, as well as the $10s to 100s of millions in annual budgets and economic impact they typically encompass. This is a stub level article, however, but there is plenty of precedent for its inclusion in wikipedia. cp101p (talk) 08:27, 26 March 2008 (UTC)
 * Keep or merge, this administrative division of the school is notable, because it has sources that say it is notable--number one in the US for landscape architecture, it seems. AnteaterZot (talk) 18:01, 27 March 2008 (UTC)
 * Speedy Keep and expand This is a College within a Major Research University. Jccort (talk) 19:57, 27 March 2008 (UTC)


 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.