Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill School of Journalism and Mass Communication


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was   nomination withdrawn (non-admin closure). Artichoke2020 (talk) 02:24, 10 May 2008 (UTC)

University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill School of Journalism and Mass Communication

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No sources and mainly consists of information taken straight from the school website. Artichoke2020 (talk) 20:02, 6 May 2008 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Schools-related deletion discussions.   —TerriersFan (talk) 20:18, 6 May 2008 (UTC)
 * Delete I suppose, unless someone can add secondary sources. 20:25, 6 May 2008 (UTC) —Preceding unsigned comment added by Gimghoul28 (talk • contribs)
 * Strong Merge into Schools of the University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill. Gimghoul28 (talk) 23:47, 6 May 2008 (UTC)
 * Merge into University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill or new article Schools of the University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill. Tertiary, degree awarding bodies are notable. It is an editorial judgement as to how best to organise the material but we don't delete notable content for lack of sources; we look for improvement. TerriersFan (talk) 20:28, 6 May 2008 (UTC)
 * Comment In an ideal world that would happen, but no one has been interested in improving the article despite tagging for some time it appears. Also the UNC main article has just got down to a good length after some editing, so I would very strongly oppose a merge there.Artichoke2020 (talk) 20:34, 6 May 2008 (UTC)
 * Sorry just saw the other suggestion. A new Schools of the University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill could be good. Artichoke2020 (talk) 20:36, 6 May 2008 (UTC)
 * I think that the absence of content on the Schools seems quite a significant omission from the main UNC page. If this suggestion is adopted, then all that would need be added to the main page is a summary section. I would add that the time that we delete notable pages is when the content cannot be verified; here it plainly can be against the schools' websites. In the view of your comment I have amended my recommendation. TerriersFan (talk) 20:49, 6 May 2008 (UTC)
 * CommentI'm a bit confused. In my mind an article is either about a notable subject or not.  If it's not, then delete it.  If it is, then keep it and let it grow.  The alternative is to delete all stubs until someone can post up enough information about them enough so that the can exist on their own.  Creating another article to move this to just to split them up once enough information is gathered seems pointless.  To me, the question on whether this article should be deleted was answered with the statement "Tertiary, degree awarding bodies are notable." Remember (talk) 21:13, 6 May 2008 (UTC)
 * Comment - merge is a variety of keep. It is a question, from my viewpoint, of how the information is best organised. Generally, we don't have separate pages for individual schools/departments. The nominator is pressing ahead with the new page, an action which I support, and the advantage is that all the schools can be covered, not just the three who were the subject of these pages. TerriersFan (talk) 21:31, 6 May 2008 (UTC)
 * Are you saying we don't generally have separate articles for Medical schools and law schools? Then what about all of these articles here Category:Schools of medicine in the United States and here Category:Law schools in the United States about? Why delete these and not other stubs? Also, there are plenty of schools with their own articles (See here).  I would note that UNC-CH's school of journalism is consecutively ranked as one of the best in the nation.  Thus, if others deserve their own article, surely UNC-Ch's does as well.  I think that this is a massive waste of time and effort just to move the material to a page where they will inevitable be split from in the future. Remember (talk) 21:47, 6 May 2008 (UTC)


 * Keep I think the article could use some expansion and I'd be willing to undertake that -- but couldn't get to it for a week or two at best. I don't think either deletion or merger are appropriate. The school is significant in its own right, as Remember pointed out it is consistently rated one of the top in its field. Also, the majority of its peer schools have their own articles -- Columbia School of Journalism, Missouri School of Journalism, Medill School of Journalism, S. I. Newhouse School of Public Communications, Philip Merrill College of Journalism -- are we proposing deletion of those as well? Ncjon (talk) 23:35, 6 May 2008 (UTC)
 * Keep per Ncjon. The journalism school is notable as a part of Chapel Hill, is too large to be merged in effectively. --Falcorian (talk) 00:42, 7 May 2008 (UTC)
 * Keep. It is easier to categorize a single school than an article on a bunch of schools within a university. The three schools are unlikely to share many references or external links. --Eastmain (talk) 02:36, 7 May 2008 (UTC)
 * Keep - Add sources if you think it needs more. SuMadre (talk) 04:04, 9 May 2008 (UTC)


 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.