Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/University of South Carolina February 2015 Shooting


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The result was   delete. Missvain (talk) 07:50, 14 February 2015 (UTC)

University of South Carolina February 2015 Shooting

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Just another all-too-common murder-suicide. The location adds no significance to the event. WP:NOTNEWS. No lasting issues here. WWGB (talk) 04:04, 7 February 2015 (UTC)
 * Delete Tragic for the families and those whose job it is to clean up the mess. But otherwise, a routine domestic dispute that ended in another sad but non-notable murder-suicide. Cullen328  Let's discuss it  07:49, 7 February 2015 (UTC)
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 * Delete Pretty obvious WP:NOTNEWS case. Murder suicides, according to one source I read, happen more than a thousand times a year in the U.S. This one his hardly remarkable by any definition. There will be no lasting notability to this event. It's just a minor footnote in history. For evidence of that, have a look at one of the references used in the article which points to this local news story regarding the shooting. They talked with Pat Bowman, who was held hostage in the 1984 event. In his words these are isolated incidents. The gravity of these events is very, very low. Evidence of that is that the Zeltner suicide on campus is not even mentioned in the main University of South Carolina article. I don't think this murder-suicide should even be in the main article, much less have its own article. --Hammersoft (talk) 18:31, 7 February 2015 (UTC)
 * Delete Not very notable to say the least. Murder-suicides involving only one murder victim are common every day in the world. Libertarian12111971 (talk) 01:32, 8 February 2015 (UTC)
 * Yes, they are. But that's completely irrelevant. Anything that gets this much attention needs an article, whether it's an ordinary thing or an unusual thing. Everyking (talk) 15:11, 10 February 2015 (UTC)
 * Would you mind telling me how this got so much attention? I'm an avid news-watcher and I didn't hear about anything relating to this shooting until I saw this article. Libertarian12111971 (talk) 22:24, 12 February 2015 (UTC)
 * Keep, sources indicate notability. The nature of the event is irrelevant here; the only thing that matters is how much attention it got. Everyking (talk) 23:40, 8 February 2015 (UTC)
 * "how much attention it got" seems limited to two local TV stations and one local newspaper. WWGB (talk) 01:30, 13 February 2015 (UTC)
 * Keep, it's not a routine domestic violence incident when it is a shooting on a college campus, the victim is a professor of Arab descent, and it gets nearly as much national and international attention Daily Mail as if was a terrorist mass shooting. There is a pattern of editors trying very hard to delete any incident that has an even remote possibility of being motivated by terrorism using domestic violence as a cover story. Being one of a series of college and shopping mall shootings is certainly notable. Redhanker (talk) 20:47, 9 February 2015 (UTC)
 * First, I'm not part of some grand conspiracy trying to delete any category of anything, much less things motivated by terrorism. Second, there's no evidence presented anywhere to suggest this event is linked to a series of college and shopping mall shootings. Please. --Hammersoft (talk) 23:35, 9 February 2015 (UTC)
 * not sure why you are addressing this "keep" guy he is a sock for a baned user and from my observation has mental problems--70.190.111.213 (talk) 04:00, 10 February 2015 (UTC)


 * Delete Per WP:NOTNEWS. Transcendence (talk) 22:14, 11 February 2015 (UTC)
 * Detete I usually don't call for deletions of subjects like this, but shootings this small are better off being mentioned on the college's Wikipedia page than having a full article. It's just not notable enough, despite how tragic it is. BenBuff91 (talk) 20:19, 12 February 2015 (UTC)
 * Delete Tragic, to be sure, but also pretty clearly a prime example of WP:NOTNEWS. This is not a notable event worthy of encyclopedic coverage, it is simply news that is sadly becoming all too common. GarnetAndBlack (talk) 07:12, 14 February 2015 (UTC)
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