Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Untitled Blumhouse Television anthology series


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was delete. J04n(talk page) 19:57, 5 March 2018 (UTC)

Untitled Blumhouse Television anthology series

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WP:TOOSOON for an article on this series, which has no title or writers at this time. The only press is coverage of the announcement of the partnership. power~enwiki ( π, ν ) 03:19, 26 February 2018 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Television-related deletion discussions.  MT Train Talk 04:18, 26 February 2018 (UTC)


 * Delete Wait until it has a network and a title. Don't do 'untitled series' articles, please, it's a waste of time and resources when we actually have to move it.  Nate  • ( chatter ) 01:26, 27 February 2018 (UTC)
 * It does have a network: Hulu. It also has an airdate: October 2018. But I still understand the point being made here. Out of curiosity though, what "time and resources" are involved in moving a page? As far as I understand it, and I have moved pages before, all that is required is simply going to the move tab at the top of the screen and changing the title. I'm always open to learning from more experienced editors, so please accept my question in the genuine manner in which it was intended. BoogerD (talk) 02:07, 27 February 2018 (UTC)
 * It's more than that. We have to update all inline templates, along with the articles of cast, crew, networks and distributors as we roll by weeks without the show having a title but people signing on and confirmed in the entertainment media. An average move of that type with one editor takes two-three hours. So in our experience with television series and networks, it's better to have all the information ready to go when the show is announced with a title, cast and network (the airdate matters less as long as we have it in a certain quarter) than it is to be under an 'untitled' designation and have a lingering link that will get no traffic once the 'untitled' work gets a title.  Nate  • ( chatter ) 01:05, 28 February 2018 (UTC)
 * Thank you. That was a thorough and thoughtful response that one would expect from an experienced editor. I will take everything you have said into consideration. Have a nice evening. Cheers, BoogerD (talk) 02:45, 28 February 2018 (UTC)
 * BoogerD, I see you have been on Wikipedia for 11 years! Here is my explanation for you. It will take three or four editors five to ten minutes to review this page and !vote on it. Let's say five editors at seven minutes a piece. This page without a doubt going to be deleted, so that makes 35 minutes of wasted editor time for something that actually should not be here in the first place. If the page was about a show that had aired and had reviews, then hey, no time wasted! It pays to follow policies. Hope that helps to explain things. Also, just logically speaking, if something does not exist yet, everything that can be said about it is promotional. 104.163.148.25 (talk) 07:10, 27 February 2018 (UTC)
 * I'm sorry, ten minutes? To read an article that is a paragraph long? There is no guideline or anything in the manual of style that cites that a film or television show or special need have aired/been released or been reviewed in order to qualify for an article. I am certainly willing to follow the guidance of the community but I will defend my actions when someone is basing an argument on something not rooted in anything factual. Hope we can continue to edit together. Cheers, BoogerD (talk) 07:27, 27 February 2018 (UTC)


 * Delete All sources are purely promotion, and show does not even exist yet. Hello? Not notable if it has never been screened or reviewed. We are not a promotional site.104.163.148.25 (talk) 07:07, 27 February 2018 (UTC)
 * Comment The sources are from independent news organizations picking up on the notable news story of one of the top two major streaming services teaming with a major production company to produce a television series. If the sources were, as you put it, "purely promotional" then they would've been on an official Hulu website. I am willing to accept/listen to the argument that it might be premature to have an article for the series until there is are some producers/writers/stars attached. However, a film or television series or special does not have to have been released or reviewed to make it notable or worthy of inclusion in an article. Note the hundreds of pages for upcoming films, television series, and specials. You are right, Wikipedia is not a promotional website. Articles should be written in such a manner as to objectively cover notable subjects. They should be written by third parties not associated with the topic or those who would have a conflict of interest. That is not the case here. I would concede that the article may have been published slightly early. However, once more information is released it will certainly be worthy of inclusion on Wikipedia. Have a nice evening. BoogerD (talk) 07:16, 27 February 2018 (UTC)
 * You need to read WP:Notability and WP:RS and also WP:CRYSTAL. For whatever reason, you are an 11 year veteran editor and do not seem to see how those policies apply here. You're on the losing end of the argument here, as above.104.163.148.25 (talk) 07:18, 27 February 2018 (UTC)
 * Thank you for presuming that in the 11 years that I have been on here, as you kindly noted, I have not read read any of the policies, guidelines, or manual of style articles. I have actually. My point still stands. I'm not arguing that this specific article not be deleted at this moment in time. However, your assertion that a film or television show need be released or reviewed before an article is created is just patently untrue. Good night. BoogerD (talk) 07:27, 27 February 2018 (UTC)


 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.