Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Untitled Project (film)


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was   delete. Can be userified or moved to draft space later, if requested. Lankiveil (speak to me) 12:14, 8 March 2014 (UTC)

Untitled Project (film)

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The article's title shouldn't head an article that describes just one of the many films in production that happen not to have been titled at any given time. Fails WP:NFF and completely uncited. —Largo Plazo (talk) 11:18, 28 February 2014 (UTC)


 * delete We've reached new levels of WP:CRYSTAL when we don't even know what the name of the article is going to be yet. Mangoe (talk) 11:30, 28 February 2014 (UTC)
 * Delete Fails WP:V (maybe the title is Untitled Project!) and is unref'd too.  Lugnuts  Dick Laurent is dead 12:40, 28 February 2014 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of India-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k (talk) 17:19, 28 February 2014 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Film-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k (talk) 17:19, 28 February 2014 (UTC)


 * Delete. A bit too soon, not meeting criteria for future films of there being documentation of principal filming having begun. -- do  ncr  am  22:53, 28 February 2014 (UTC)
 * Comment: I will agree that it does not meet NFF for no documentation of principal filming's start. But its referenced now and we do keep articles of films which have no name to it. §§ Dharmadhyaksha §§ {T/C} 18:50, 1 March 2014 (UTC)
 * Comment. Perhaps it would be best to move it to draft space.  If we don't know the name yet, that's a pretty good indication that it violates both WP:CRYSTAL and WP:NFF.  It could also be redirected to an appropriate target, but I really wouldn't know where. NinjaRobotPirate (talk) 20:11, 1 March 2014 (UTC)
 * There is no point in redirecting such a vague name to anything else. The redirect target however could be the film's director Mani Ratnam. But that would have been the solution if the name was Mani Ratnam's untitled film or something such. Best solution would be to see if filming has started and if not then delete it. There is hardly anything in it to salvage it in a draft space either. §§ Dharmadhyaksha §§ {T/C} 20:16, 1 March 2014 (UTC)
 * You're right. I'm not sure what I was thinking when I suggested that. NinjaRobotPirate (talk) 21:04, 1 March 2014 (UTC)


 * Comment: Proposal for Future Film AFDs. I've actively been following AFD for just a couple weeks, and there have been several of these film project articles.  Moving them all to a /draft space, plus adding links to the /draft articles to a running list in Wikipedia space, perhaps somewhere in WikiProject Film, would be kinder to contributors and more constructive and more in keeping with GFDL license.  I see there is inactive WikiProject Film/Future films/Article listing, a listing as of 2009 of future film projects, most which became articles.  A routine message template could be created, to be left on contributors' talk pages, about where to find their article and linking to wp:NFF and linking to the WikiProject Films list of them all, showing theirs.  Wouldn't that be better? -- do  ncr  am  22:04, 1 March 2014 (UTC)
 * Response User:doncram. I have been following AFDs for 6 years. What would be kinder is to return them to their creator's userspace and assist in their bettering their article.  Schmidt,  Michael Q. 21:30, 3 March 2014 (UTC)
 * Hi, thanks for your reply on this tangent. What's different now is the availability of /draft space, where film projects and anything else AFD-rejected on "too soon" argument could be held.  Userfying gives it back to just one person, while some system covering future films and so on could save them for use by anyone.  I think many persons would be happier to see their work put there, if there is good chance it will be used if/when criteria are met (i.e. when principal filming is documentable).  There would need to be a proper system to have all "too soon" AFDs contribute to there, and for everyone involved in the AFD and every one of the original contributors all to know about the item, too.  That would increase chances of original article being salvaged.  Also, to clarify, over many years I have from time to time over dealt with individual AFDs, but only recently have been focusing on the area. -- do  ncr  am  22:02, 3 March 2014 (UTC)
 * Delete (or userfy) for now as this can be spoken of in the article on Mani Ratnam where it can be sourced that he is working on an as-yet-to-be-titled film project. We take each NFF issue on its own merits.  Allow undeletion/recreation once filming and title are confirmed.  Schmidt,  Michael Q. 21:30, 3 March 2014 (UTC)
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