Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Ursa Minor (album)


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was   redirect to Third Eye Blind. While the "keep" !voters say it will be recreated in a few weeks, it still is WP:CRYSTAL. And as for Polargeo, redirects are cheap, so if it can plausibly aid navigation then we create it. King of &hearts;   &diams;   &clubs;  &spades; 00:19, 11 May 2010 (UTC)

Ursa Minor (album)

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WP:CRYSTAL and parts of WP:HAMMER apply. Some reliable sources state that the album is in production, but there is no confirmed release date in any source, and there is only a potential track list noted at band website and other self-published sources. D OOMSDAYER 520 (Talk|Contribs) 23:11, 26 April 2010 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Albums and songs-related deletion discussions.  —  D OOMSDAYER 520  (Talk|Contribs) 23:13, 26 April 2010 (UTC)
 * Keep -- The album's existence and name has been confirmed through reliable sources. I do think it'll be years before it comes out, but since it is still in the plans to be made, I think it should be kept. I do think the track list part should probably be deleted though. Sergecross73 (talk) 03:29, 27 April 2010 (UTC)
 * Keep -- The article includes a second party reference from Billboard, a music industry paper of record. The article has a title, vague release frame and sources. I don't see the point in deleting it just to re-create in a few weeks. Darwin&#39;s Bulldog (talk) 03:43, 27 April 2010 (UTC)
 * Keep -- Notable and pointless to have to recreate. Geeky Randy (talk) 05:08, 27 April 2010 (UTC)
 * Comment - these are legit votes and I also think it's dumb to delete an article that will be re-created in the near future. But I think there is still a need to address some specific concerns raised by the two WP guidelines mentioned in my nomination above. Most importantly, no track list and no confirmed release date in either the near future or far future. D OOMSDAYER 520  (Talk|Contribs) 15:36, 27 April 2010 (UTC)
 * Reply --- Understandable. Perhaps a heavy rewrite with no redundancies and/or rumors—or anything else that could fall into the category of WP:CRYSTAL or WP:HAMMER—would suffice?  Geeky Randy (talk) 19:06, 27 April 2010 (UTC)
 * Reply --- I've added a few more third party references to the article to help address some of its issues. Any additional help would be appreciated. Darwin&#39;s Bulldog (talk) 19:24, 27 April 2010 (UTC)
 * Reply --- I got rid of the track list. Not a song one of the songs was verfified by a reliable source, they were from a blog (which was wrong on a number of occassions, not to mention a song is never really "confirmed" for 3eb albums until it's finalized and in stores...) Sergecross73 (talk) 20:11, 27 April 2010 (UTC)
 * I've found a few video interviews where Jenkins discusses Ursa Minor,  though I am unsure of how to cite videos properly on wikipedia. Darwin&#39;s Bulldog (talk) 22:00, 27 April 2010 (UTC)

 Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks,   A rbitrarily 0    ( talk ) 00:27, 4 May 2010 (UTC)
 * Delete- as per nominator, album does not exist and may never exist, we don't do it for Britney Spears and we shouldn't do it for these people either. Userfy it and work on it in your userspace and wait to see if it ever is released. Off2riorob (talk) 19:36, 3 May 2010 (UTC)
 * Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so consensus may be reached.


 * Merge: The article should be merged with the appropriate article. --White Trillium (talk) 03:44, 4 May 2010 (UTC)
 * Delete Not yet notable. Very easy to recreate when it is realeased and will be minus the speculation. Wikipeida is not for advertising. Polargeo (talk) 06:52, 4 May 2010 (UTC)
 * Redirect to Third Eye Blind until there is more to say about the article than it might exist sometime. Stifle (talk) 08:21, 4 May 2010 (UTC)
 * If we could be sure it will be created then yes a redirect, but we cannot be certain this will be the name yet so delete per WP:Crystal Nobody needs a redirect for an unreleased album. Anyone who is a fan of the band can find them on wikipedia. Polargeo (talk) 15:16, 4 May 2010 (UTC)


 * Merge with artist's article Third Eye Blind per WP:NALBUMS: "generally, an album should not have an independent article until its title, track listing and release date have all been publicly confirmed by the artist or their record label." This does not appear to be an "exceptionally high-profile project" and there is not yet enough verified information about this album for it to be worthy of its own article.  Cliff smith  talk  19:16, 7 May 2010 (UTC)
 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.