Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Uthai Thani F.C.


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was   keep. (non-admin closure) DavidLeighEllis (talk) 15:51, 26 May 2015 (UTC)

Uthai Thani F.C.

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Doesn't meet WP:CLUB or WP:GNG. Boleyn (talk) 10:53, 20 May 2015 (UTC)

Comment The creator has removed the AfD tag from the article, plus unref, notability etc. tags, with an insulting edit summary. I'm not interested in edit warring and have already reverted a similar removal by the same editor earlier today so am loath to risk WP:3RR by doing this myself. Boleyn (talk) 12:02, 20 May 2015 (UTC)
 * Comment: The teams in this league all appear to have articles, thus prodding just one probably struck editors as strange. In 2012, the only AfD related to a team in this league resulted in a re-direct (Articles for deletion/Phetchabun F.C., but it was later re-created in 2014 without controversy.--Milowent • hasspoken  16:50, 20 May 2015 (UTC)
 * Comment I don't beleive my summary was insulting at all. What was insulting is that they're 100's of articles for Thai football clubs that you haven't tagged, you tagged this one without any comment or discussion. I reverted your edit, just like you have decided to tag an article for deletion, which is like reverting everyones edit. If you want to delete the article, then you need to delete all the Thai football articles aswell. This is the issue at stake is it not?
 * Comment No, it's not. WP:OTHERSTUFFEXISTS and always will. The issue in question is whether this club meets WP:CLUB or WP:GNG. Boleyn (talk) 07:02, 23 May 2015 (UTC)
 * Comment An alternative to deletion is possibly to reirect to List of football clubs in Thailand. Boleyn (talk) 07:04, 23 May 2015 (UTC)
 * Comment What is the point of redirecting? If someone wants to find Uthai Thani, then they don't really want to find a big long list filled with 80 odd football teams.....this tells the reader nothing? What is the point of members working on articles if they are just tagged with deletion which happens every couple of months for most of these articles? We aren't allowed to use Thai sources, these have been moved before. All that is allowed is to have the article deleted. Druryfire (talk) 08:56, 23 May 2015 (UTC)
 * Comment If it is redirected, then the reader is informed that it is a football club in Thailand and a link is given to the correct region/league they play in, especially if the redirect links to the correct section. It doesn't give the reader much, but an encyclopaedia doesn't give a reader much on non-notable topics. I understand you are frustrated that you have taken the time to contribute, and the article is now having its notability questioned, but this is an encyclopaedia. Your concerns about inclusion / notability would beat be raised at the WP:Wikiproject Notability page than here. Do you think this club meets the notability guidelines - WP:CLUB or WP:GNG? Boleyn (talk) 11:07, 23 May 2015 (UTC)
 * Comment No, i'm not frustrated. I'm just stating the point that if this article is deleted, then all the articles for similar clubs need deleting......do you see the huge knock on effect here? Not just for Thai football, but all Asian football, African football, any second tier clubs in Europe! This club has played in Thai FA Cup, if that article is notable, then surely the club is aswell? The biggest problem is that the article is vague, it needs bringing up to something reasonable. Deletion is not the answer. Druryfire (talk) 13:07, 23 May 2015 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in WikiProject Football's list of association football-related deletions. • Gene93k (talk) 13:28, 23 May 2015 (UTC)
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 * Comment Here is what I find for news coverage: SMM (Magazine, TV, radio) 20 pages of news (total about 100 news); Siam Sports (Newspaper, TV) 3 pages of news (but search is not as reliable). --Lerdsuwa (talk) 17:12, 23 May 2015 (UTC)
 * Keep - as noted above, easily meets WP:GNG. Also plays in national cup (FA Cup and League Cup) competitions, as can be seen by checking the links to the page. Nfitz (talk) 01:40, 25 May 2015 (UTC)
 * Keep - appears to be notable by playing in the national cup competition. GiantSnowman 16:32, 25 May 2015 (UTC)
 * Keep - club has played in a national competition. Fenix down (talk) 14:33, 26 May 2015 (UTC)
 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.