Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Utica greens


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was   keep. (non-admin closure) DavidLeighEllis (talk) 14:39, 16 May 2015 (UTC)

Utica greens

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This is a procedural nomination of a "redirect" that was listed at RFD. Since this is actually an article, I think it would be better to take it here. The nominator,, had the following to say: "Having made almost 100kb worth of edits on Utica, New York, I think it's safe to say this should redirect to Cuisine of the Mid-Atlantic United States#Dishes, which would be a prose list I suppose, or Endive or something. I just don't believe it should be an article" Tavix | Talk 19:26, 9 May 2015 (UTC)
 * I had added the comment below to the RfD prior to the procedural close. There has been an edit war over whether the article should be redirected or not, and it ended up there when it should have ended up here. My !vote is the same, though. Ivanvector (talk) 13:49, 10 May 2015 (UTC)
 * Keep article - I think there's enough here for an article, but the current one needs much work. I don't know what notability guideline to refer to for local cuisine, so I'm judging GNG by the diversity of search results, and the fact that Rachael Ray has published her own recipe for this dish. As a side note, this should probably be at AfD since an article was created. Ivanvector (talk) 08:15, 8 May 2015 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Food and drink-related deletion discussions. &#8213;  Padenton &#124;&#9993;  19:32, 10 May 2015 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of New York-related deletion discussions. --BDD (talk) 13:40, 12 May 2015 (UTC)


 * My quick take is that it's probably notable enough, like many regional dishes. Neither of the nominator's redirect suggestions are good, however, since the dish isn't mentioned on either of those pages. And if it's deemed non-notable, it probably shouldn't be anyway. --BDD (talk) 13:42, 12 May 2015 (UTC)
 * Keep Definitely passes WP:GNG. I added three sources in a new Further reading section—a Chicago Tribune article, a Smithsonian magazine article, and a Gastronomica article, the last being a scholarly publication. Utica greens is the subject of each of them. --BDD (talk) 13:51, 12 May 2015 (UTC)
 * keep (note to self: make it for dinner) search turned up lots of hits, recipes.E.M.Gregory (talk) 17:59, 14 May 2015 (UTC)
 * Keep - a very well-known, and unique, dish served on tables across Upstate New York. Bearian (talk) 16:32, 15 May 2015 (UTC)
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