Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Utopia (Sirius XM)


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The result was no consensus. Due to lack of participation with no prejudice to a speedy renomination. Davewild (talk) 18:49, 15 May 2015 (UTC)

Utopia (Sirius XM)

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This, along with other Sirius XM radio channels; are these notable? ViperSnake151  Talk  23:56, 21 April 2015 (UTC)
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 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Radio-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k (talk) 18:33, 22 April 2015 (UTC)

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Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, North America1000 00:26, 29 April 2015 (UTC)
 * Keep With more than 25-million subscribers to SiriusXM [1 ], I have to assume that EVERY channel on SiriusXM is notable, obviously the audience is plenty large, and given that every station must produce content for listeners it would be hard to imagine that notability cannot be established for any SiriusXM channel. Haphazard nomination in my opinion as the nominator states, "along with other Sirius XM radio channels"....really? Are we going to start debating the Howard Stern Channels? How about Hits 1, the most listened to station on SiriusXM? -War wizard90 (talk) 02:20, 29 April 2015 (UTC)
 * 25 million subscribers means Sirius XM is notable and almost certainly has some individually notable stations. But notability is WP:NOTINHERITED. That seems to assume listeners are divided evenly rather than having a small number of extremely popular stations and a bunch of others, many of which are just rebroadcasts of terrestrial radio, playlists, etc. You just named a couple of the behemoths, but Stern's notability doesn't transfer to the traffic report stations. &mdash;  Rhododendrites talk  \\ 21:19, 3 May 2015 (UTC)
 * That's true, I probably got hung up a bit too much on the "along with other channels" comment than I should have. That being said, even if only 1% of subscribers listened to this channel, that's still 250,000 listeners (and that's assuming only 1 person listens per subscription, which I don't think anyone believes is the case). So I still have a hard time imagining anything on SiriusXM isn't notable (I suspect where the real issue may come in is finding reliable sources to prove the notability, more than the actual notability itself). I'll see if I can't dredge up a few sources to help establish notability. -War wizard90 (talk) 04:04, 5 May 2015 (UTC)


 * Question - what does "This, along with other Sirius XM radio channels" mean? That sounds like you're nominating more than just Utopia, but there are none others listed here. AfD also needs to include an assertion regarding reason for deletion rather than a broad inquiry. &mdash;  Rhododendrites  talk  \\ 21:15, 3 May 2015 (UTC)
 * This is mainly intended as a test case. Our presumption of notability for radio stations only applies to terrestrial stations. Most of their "channels" are no different than the endless automated music channels offered on cable providers through services such as Stingray Music and Music Choice. In the case of Sirius, there may be a few notable stations with a history and enough coverage to justify inclusion. This, however, is not one of them. ViperSnake151   Talk  22:44, 3 May 2015 (UTC)

 Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, North America1000 02:48, 6 May 2015 (UTC)
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