Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Uzbekistan 2020


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was   redirect to Lola Karimova-Tillyaeva. More accurately deleted and redirect as the compelling argument is the lack of proper sourcing independant of the founder Spartaz Humbug! 18:56, 3 December 2009 (UTC)

Uzbekistan 2020

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Non-notable fund apparently used as a plaything by Lola Karimova-Tillyaeva. No reason for it to have a separate article apart from her, but creator of article disagrees and reverted my redirect. Orange Mike  &#x007C;   Talk  02:29, 17 November 2009 (UTC)
 * Delete contents and redirect to Lola Karimova-Tillyaeva, as per nom. —Mr. E. Sánchez (that's me!)What I Do / What I Say 03:24, 17 November 2009 (UTC)

Keep - This fund seems to be fairly notable, especially compared to similar initiatives in Central Asia, which is why I bothered to take the time to write an article about it. It currently has a fair number of hits on Google (just under 10,000), and while the majority of those are primarily about the fact that people were paid to go to the opening dinner, it does illustrate how much attention this organization is getting in Europe. This is not like the "playthings" of the Karimov daughters, such as their spas, nightclubs, and cafes in Uzbekistan, but is an organization spending (and receiving) a lot of money in a prominent international setting, quite different from anything we've seen previously. Also, considering the critical state of Uzbek-EU relations, a major PR push like this could potentially have a political dimension (this has only been discussed on a political blog or two and by Wikipedia standards is OR for now, but still worth considering). In the meantime, Uzbekistan 2020 is the first international organization established by a daughter of the president of Uzbekistan (which in itself gives the organization a lot of notability), it is building connections with other charitable organizations (raising over $200,000 for the Fondation Claude-Pompidou, for example), and has received a fair amount of worldwide media attention, especially in Central Asia and France. Otebig (talk) 03:43, 17 November 2009 (UTC)
 * Keep - I realise that in some ways it comes down to a matter of opinion, but I consider this topic to be "interesting [and] unusual enough" to be notable. As Otebig points out, it's also significant in a number of ways, and has been receiving attention.  The organisation itself probably has three possible directions (1. continue to do some ridiculous and controversial things, 2. continue towards living up to its mission, 3. fall silent, never to be heard from again), all of which are noteworthy (and my guess is that it'll probably be some combination of all three).  People interested in charitable organisations in Central Asia (I know some people who have actually researched this topic) will surely be interested by this, and I suspect some scholarship will emerge soon that addresses this organisation.  Maybe the article was added a little soon, but since it's there already, keep it—otherwise someone'll just be adding it again a year or two down the road. —Firespeaker (talk) 04:20, 17 November 2009 (UTC)

 Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, @Kate   (talk)  09:22, 25 November 2009 (UTC)
 * KEEP: per above - Ret.Prof (talk) 22:40, 22 November 2009 (UTC)
 * KEEP: agree with above Ace4545 (talk) 13:46, 25 November 2009 (UTC)
 * Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so consensus may be reached.


 * Delete or redirect, totally without independent notability. All the News "sources" are the same. Abductive  (reasoning) 11:53, 25 November 2009 (UTC)
 * Merge with the founder unless more news about this shows up. Just one story atm Polarpanda (talk) 14:10, 25 November 2009 (UTC)
 * Delete/Redirect. The mentions of Monica Bellucci's paid gala appearance are trivial, and thus do not go towards establishing notability.  The other source in the article is a pr release from PR Newswire, not an independent, reliable source, and as User:Abductive notes, all the gnews hits seem to be copies of that press release.  I can find no non-trivial, independent reliable source coverage of this subject, so it fails the GNG and WP:CORP.  Note also that notability is not inherited from celebrities to organizations they found; those organizations must stand on their own merit.  Merging a sentence to Lola Karimova-Tillyaeva is a possibility, I suppose, but I don't think there's anything worth saving.  Baileypalblue (talk) 17:16, 25 November 2009 (UTC)
 * Keep per above--Pookeo9 (talk) 20:03, 25 November 2009 (UTC)
 * Delete and Merge - the information in the sources seems to be chiefly about Bellucci - not the company itself. Thus, this would seem to be incidental coverage, this causing this article to fail WP:ORG.   Cocytus   [»talk«]  20:30, 25 November 2009 (UTC)
 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.