Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Véronique De Kock


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The result was keep. Tone 19:26, 2 May 2019 (UTC)

Véronique De Kock

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Fails WP: GNG, has only won a national beauty pageant (see WP:1EVENT), failed to place at international level. No other significant achievement since. Fails WP:NMODEL. Dan arndt (talk) 10:20, 18 April 2019 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Women-related deletion discussions. Icewhiz (talk) 10:30, 18 April 2019 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Beauty pageants-related deletion discussions. Icewhiz (talk) 10:30, 18 April 2019 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Fashion-related deletion discussions. Icewhiz (talk) 10:30, 18 April 2019 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Belgium-related deletion discussions. Icewhiz (talk) 10:30, 18 April 2019 (UTC)


 * She doesnt seem much less notable than all the other winners of the title Miss Belgium. It doesnt make much sense to delete just one of a series of articles. Rathfelder (talk) 21:47, 19 April 2019 (UTC)
 * , simply because each individual needs to be assessed on their own merits. A number of the winners have gone on to make other achievements i.e. politicians, media personalities etc, which is why they are considered notable and not up for deletion. Dan arndt (talk) 23:05, 19 April 2019 (UTC)

 Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
 * Delete none of the sources add up to passing GNG. We judge articles based on how notable the subject is, we do not presume notability because other articles on like winners of a non-notable award exist.John Pack Lambert (talk) 02:41, 20 April 2019 (UTC)
 * Keep - competed in an international pageant, and went on to other career achievements e.g. presenter of nationally televised event. MurielMary (talk) 23:45, 23 April 2019 (UTC)
 * Keep. While recent pageants and their winners get much less attention in Belgium, she is from a time when these things got lots of attention, and she carved a long career in popular magazines and TV shows out of it. She is the kind of person where every minor event of her life graces "popular" (tabloid-like) newspapers, resulting in more than 4,000 Google News results, often focused on her, and this continues until now, e.g. when she postpones her marriage or opens her new clothing store, or she gives personal interviews when she is the central guest in a one-hour episode of a reality / human interest show. In Belgium, especially Flanders, she is a household name, with few notable true achievements, but with lots of attention from reliable sources. And the latter is the only (or certainly the main) rule for inclusion here at enwiki. Fram (talk) 07:21, 24 April 2019 (UTC)

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Kpg  jhp  jm  15:56, 25 April 2019 (UTC)
 * Keep She won a major award WP:ANYBIO also has other GNG attached to her  Lubbad85   (☎) 03:10, 30 April 2019 (UTC)


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