Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/V-Focus


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was no consensus.  MBisanz  talk 12:40, 20 December 2016 (UTC)

V-Focus

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Source searches are not providing significant coverage in reliable sources for this new television show; does not meet WP:GNG at this time. North America1000 08:35, 3 November 2016 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Television-related deletion discussions. North America1000 08:35, 3 November 2016 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Taiwan-related deletion discussions. North America1000 08:35, 3 November 2016 (UTC)


 * Keep This is a broadcast television show on a national network, will likely pass per essay WP:BROADCAST with some digging. At worst, the article is about a week WP:TOOSOON and should have waited for reviews. English sources would be nice, however. Maybe a Taiwanese editor could double check the sources and add some media coverage? 157.235.66.80 (talk) 20:12, 3 November 2016 (UTC)
 * Comment It appears that the creator has created a number of similar Taiwanese TV show articles with (apparently) plagiarized body text. While I do believe these are notable shows, the articles need some cleanup/policing to make them policy-friendly. 157.235.66.80 (talk) 20:19, 3 November 2016 (UTC)
 * Speedy Keep Broadcast nationally in Taiwan, Singapore and Malaysia (lead actor Melvin Sia is Malaysian), really see no reason to delete. Afd in my opinion is not the place for cleanup requests. Timmyshin (talk) 00:15, 4 November 2016 (UTC)


 * Comment – It's a new program that has received no significant coverage in reliable sources; filming began on September 21, 2016. This is a nomination for deletion, not a cleanup request. Lastly, WP:BROADCAST is an essay page, not a notability guideline. North America1000 00:23, 4 November 2016 (UTC)
 * In this case filming date = broadcast date, not sure why you bring it up, but Taiwanese shows aren't like American shows, as far as I know they never get canceled after a few episodes. Per notability guideline at WP:TVSERIES: "Generally, an individual radio or television program is likely to be notable if it airs on a network of radio or television stations (either national or regional in scope), or on a cable television network with a national audience. It is far less likely to be notable if it airs in only one local media market.". This show has begun airing in 3 national markets, there's no way it isn't notable. Besides, volunteers have already subbed available episodes in English, Spanish, French, Indonesian, Romanian, Thai, Vietnamese, Portuguese and Russian on the streaming site Viki (website), see . Timmyshin (talk) 00:36, 4 November 2016 (UTC)
 * Comment – WP:TVSERIES is a part of Notability (media), which is also an essay. It is not a notability guideline or policy at all. North America1000 00:51, 4 November 2016 (UTC)
 * I rest my case, but I've confidence that the wiki community will not support your request. Timmyshin (talk) 00:58, 4 November 2016 (UTC)

 Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks,  Sandstein   16:51, 21 November 2016 (UTC)  Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus. Relisting comment: Further consensus Nordic   Nightfury  08:05, 6 December 2016 (UTC)
 * Delete - Definitely fails WP:GNG. -- Dane 2007  talk 00:34, 30 November 2016 (UTC)
 * Delete. It was argued above that there will be reviews or other coverage once the program begins to air. But it has been airing for a month, and a Google search in English finds no independent reliable sourcing about it. Unless someone can provide some sourcing, perhaps non-English language sourcing, to meet our guidelines, it will have to go. Could be recreated later if sourcing develops. --MelanieN (talk) 01:53, 30 November 2016 (UTC)

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Nordic   Nightfury  08:05, 6 December 2016 (UTC)
 * Keep as per comments above. SmileBlueJay97 talk 23:08, 13 December 2016 (UTC)


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