Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/V-Nasty (2nd nomination)


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was Keep. Most opinions here are in favour of keeping, and since sources were presented here, all arguments have been for keeping. Michig (talk) 10:41, 8 January 2012 (UTC)

V-Nasty
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Non-notable musician, fails WP:BAND, speedy deletion has been applied once, article was recreated, speedy deletion tag has been removed the second time. The Mark of the Beast (talk) 02:03, 24 December 2011 (UTC)
 * Delete I started the other AFD earlier today, and it was speedied with different content. The problem is that the person is "famous" for two reasons:  being on a non-notable album with someone notable (which isn't inherited), and for some controversy over her colorful language.  As it is, most of the article is negative information about her, and the article isn't much.  At the end of the day, even that isn't enough to make someone "notable".  Under all definitions of notability, I just don't see significant coverage by reliable sources, I just see very little negative publicity.  Dennis Brown (talk) 02:16, 24 December 2011 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Bands and musicians-related deletion discussions.  • Gene93k (talk) 02:44, 24 December 2011 (UTC)


 * Comment. I am bringing up some hits for her, but I'm not sure exactly how notable she really is. This might be worth userfying or incubating until more sources can be found. So far most of the stories are pretty small, but this might be a sign that she could potentially become more notable. I'm not really voting for keep or delete until I've looked through the hits more.Tokyogirl79 (talk) 16:07, 24 December 2011 (UTC)tokyogirl79
 * Comment Which sounds like WP:TOOSOON, a valid point. I don't have a problem userfying the article myself, but think it is too soon to be into mainspace.  Dennis Brown (talk) 16:46, 24 December 2011 (UTC)
 * Weak delete. I could not find that many sources about this music artist to establish notability. There's only a limited number of sources, which in my opinion, cannot warrant that much notability. Tinton5 (talk) 17:28, 24 December 2011 (UTC)
 * yellin Keep V-Nasty / til my throat is raspy, as Kreayshawn almost exclaimed in "Gucci Gucci". if the New York Times thinks she's notable, who are we to disagree? Dennis Brown is quite wrong to describe her album as non-notable: it's been reviewed by Spin , XXL , Consequence of Sound , AllHipHop . I'm sure that's not an exhaustive account. Dennis also underestimates the significance of the issue of this white girl saying "nigga". People found there was a bit more to that issue than "colorful language" and it was written about accordingly. Coverage of all sorts includes:  Complex  (click thru), SF Weekly ' s "The Year in V-Nasty"  (also  ), XXL again  (picked up by BET, who followed that story closely thru the hip hop press ), AllHipHop , debate at the non-profit Oakland Local , LA Weekly .  86.44.31.213 (talk) 23:20, 24 December 2011 (UTC)
 * Keep I have to agree with the person above me. Artist has released an album (with Gucci Mane, an already established artist) and has been profiled by notable publications. Article just needs to be expanded through regular editing.  Quasy Boy  22:22, 28 December 2011 (UTC)
 * Keep. Number 7 at WP:BAND says notability can be established if the subject "[h]as become one of the most prominent representatives of a notable style". V-Nasty is the second most famous representative of white chick rap from Oakland behind the indisputably notable Kreayshawn. I believe that and the mixtape with Gucci Mane establish notability. (I wouldn't mind if it became Merge and redirect to Kreayshawn, though.)  City O f Silver  23:31, 29 December 2011 (UTC)
 * Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.


 * Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Bryce  ( talk  &#124;  contribs ) 03:14, 1 January 2012 (UTC)


 * Keep - Per coverage listed above by IP 86.44.31.213, particularly that in the New York Times, LA Weekly, Spin and BET. This topic appears to pass WP:GNG. Northamerica1000 (talk) 06:58, 2 January 2012 (UTC)
 * Keep. In my view there exists enough coverage for this person from the reliable sources listed above to satisfy WP:GNG and criterion 1 of WP:MUSIC.  Gongshow  Talk 06:20, 3 January 2012 (UTC)
 * Keep - Rolling Stone has an article about the recent collaboration with a major rapper, and there's other sources (all in the article). Fairly easy pass of GNG. Shadowjams (talk) 23:26, 5 January 2012 (UTC)
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