Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/V-Pop


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was   delete. v/r - TP 23:46, 23 June 2011 (UTC)

V-Pop

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Non-notable neologism for a musical "up and coming next big thing"; fails WP:CRYSTAL and WP:NEO. Orange Mike  &#x007C;   Talk  01:43, 7 June 2011 (UTC)


 * Question The prod had one day left. Why not let it run its course?    ArcAngel    (talk) ) 11:57, 7 June 2011 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Vietnam-related deletion discussions.  — • Gene93k (talk) 19:00, 7 June 2011 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Music-related deletion discussions.  — • Gene93k (talk) 19:00, 7 June 2011 (UTC)


 * Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.


 * Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Ron Ritzman (talk) 02:04, 14 June 2011 (UTC)


 * Keep: Not clear whether this is better covered here or at Music_of_vietnam, but the terminology does exist and appears to be in popular usage when discussing Vietnamese pop music, e.g., (mainstream vietnamese press, article about people hating V-pop boy band HKT], so I'd favor keeping and improving the article.--Milowent • talkblp-r  04:05, 14 June 2011 (UTC)
 * Delete That's all well and good, but significant usage isn't the same as coverage as you well know. That is my reasoning is that there isn't enough significant coverage of the term to establish notabiltiy.    ArcAngel    (talk) ) 13:14, 14 June 2011 (UTC)
 * Keep (if I may have a say as a non-user?) I have been recently involved in live discussions about the differences between and growth of J-Pop, K-Pop and V-Pop (as a British person in London, England). While the article is still pre-natal and needs improvement, this clearly has international relevance and growing notability. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 109.144.28.141 (talk) 14:08, 15 June 2011 (UTC)
 * response - in other words, it's an "up and coming next big thing". Sorry; we don't do those until they have actually become notable. -- Orange Mike  &#x007C;   Talk  14:57, 15 June 2011 (UTC)
 * Mike, i think the problem here is just finding good sources, which will mostly not be in English. the "up and coming" baloney is how fans typically suggest their country's pop music is going to spread in popularity throughout the region.  But articles like this 2008 one in Le Courrier du Vietnam show the term is the descriptor for vietnamese teen pop music (article is in french, essentially discusses how the 'princes and princesses' of v-pop are getting famous and dominate the vietnamese market).--Milowent • talkblp-r  15:38, 15 June 2011 (UTC)


 * Keep There is news coverage proving this is a real musical genre. The article was apparently written by someone who isn't a native English speaker, and needs to be rewritten.  Google news finds some results for "V-pop" and then one for "vpop" which is an article in the Los Angeles Times.   D r e a m Focus  07:11, 22 June 2011 (UTC)
 * Delete: lack of sufficient coverage (as opposed to mere usage) to even tell if this is a distinctive genre, or merely a neologism for pop-music-from-Vietnam (the lack of specificity of the characteristics of this purported genre, in the article, seems to indicate the latter). HrafnTalkStalk(P) 13:36, 22 June 2011 (UTC)
 * observation - article has gotten much worse since the nomination, apparently being edited by enthusiasts whose command of English is minimal. -- Orange Mike  &#x007C;   Talk  13:57, 22 June 2011 (UTC)
 * Delete per nom. Neologism and non-notable genre. Keb25 (talk) 19:49, 22 June 2011 (UTC)
 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.