Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/V.I.P. (1991 film)


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The result was no consensus. Insufficient discussion for consensus.  Sandstein  12:41, 1 December 2019 (UTC)

V.I.P. (1991 film)

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one line stub with only an external link to IMDb. A google search turns up no coverage to pass GNG. NFILM doesn't seem at all satisfied here, can't find any awards or even critic reviews. Director Juliusz Machulski has a page but of course NOTINHERITED. no reason to redirect as it's a totally implausible search term. Can possibly be left at VIP dab with a link to director's page Hydromania (talk) 04:48, 7 November 2019 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Film-related deletion discussions. Hydromania (talk) 04:48, 7 November 2019 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Poland-related deletion discussions. Hydromania (talk) 04:48, 7 November 2019 (UTC)

 Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus. Relisting comment: Relisted after a talkpage request, to generate a broader consensus. Originally closed as keep.
 * Keep. I found a mention of this in 1991 Polish mainstream magazine Wprost but it's snippet view and I can't verify right now if it is in-depth or in-passing. Searching for the main character name in books gives two more hits  that are clearly about this movie, but again due to snippet view I can't verify what they are, in depth or in passing. One appears to be a script or a book that this was based on? I cannot be certain. I see some mentions in passing in Google and Google Scholar, but I could't find anything in-depth. However, Machulski is a major Polish movie director, and and while WP:NOTINHERITED, the odds are this work has some reviews in 1991 newspapers and such. But generic title of the movie doesn't help, and a lot of 1991 papers etc. are either not digitized or I don't know how to look for them. I'd be leaning keep, honestly, becausde ITSHOULDBENOTABLE, but OI can't produce proof. PS. A bit more digging: this book has at least a paragraph and it looks more like an entire page or two about this movie (snippet view only, but I can see a page heading and some text). On the assumption that this has at least two pages in-depth treatment in said book I've changed my vote to keep. In 1991 this probably got press reviews in Poland and such, but this stuff is effectively unavailable unless one goes to a Polish  library and looks at old newspapers. But I see some mentions in passing, at least, plus such content as in this book, and I am pretty sure that there is enough to write some sections on reception and significance, if only someone was willing to spend hour sand hours digging through undigitized Polish sources. In the end, this is a movie by a major Polish film director, not some random flick. This stuff generally tends to get reviews and like.  --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus&#124; reply here  03:29, 8 November 2019 (UTC)

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Tone 12:25, 17 November 2019 (UTC)  Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks,  Sandstein   08:38, 24 November 2019 (UTC)


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