Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/V.I. Lenin Higher Party School


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The result was   withdrawn, never mind. Ten Pound Hammer and his otters • (Broken clamshells • Otter chirps • HELP) 15:38, 28 September 2008 (UTC)

V.I. Lenin Higher Party School

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Doesn't seem to be a notable school. No sources found. Ten Pound Hammer and his otters • (Broken clamshells • Otter chirps • HELP) 02:55, 28 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Keep - tertiary educational establishments are notable. This is a significant institution. It can be verified here. TerriersFan (talk) 03:08, 28 September 2008 (UTC)
 * That's a super-trivial mention at best. Ten Pound Hammer  and his otters • (Broken clamshells • Otter chirps • HELP) 03:12, 28 September 2008 (UTC)
 * It verifies the existence of the school. We need to be wary of systemic bias in non-English speaking countries with a poor internet presence. Time should be given for local sources to be found. TerriersFan (talk) 03:16, 28 September 2008 (UTC)
 * And where do you think those are going to come from? The school is defunct. Its no longer being operated. And when it was in operation, it only taught Communism. Not really a top notch educational system. Delete.  Syn  ergy 03:21, 28 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Under communist regimes, such party schools (actually a tertiary college) were highly influential. The fact that it is defunct is not germane; notability is not temporary. The sources would have to come from a local library search. TerriersFan (talk) 03:36, 28 September 2008 (UTC)


 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Schools-related deletion discussions.   —TerriersFan (talk) 03:18, 28 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Keep as tertiary school verified to have existed. Bias about subject taught is not acceptable argumentation for AfD.  The fact that the school is now defunct has no bearing whatsoever on AfD.  It was a college, therefore notable, therefore keep.  Simple.  Jerry   delusional ¤ kangaroo 03:37, 28 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Keep Given that it was the elite school in its country, and had the equivalent of the First Lady as principal, it looks infinitely mor noteworthy than the countless US/UK/Aussie Bog Street High Schools whose article is unquestioned. Some refs would be nice, but that is a matter for improvement, not deletion. An uninformed opinion on the nature of the education given there is not grounds for deletion. Kevin McE (talk) 03:40, 28 September 2008 (UTC)
 * I just couldn't help myself... I have searched and searched for a Bog Street High School, and aside from one Soccer forum post where a person claims to have gone there in the 1960s, there is no indication of such a school having ever existed. [www.footballforums.net/forums/archive/index.php/t-125947.html  forum link].  Jerry   delusional ¤ kangaroo 14:20, 28 September 2008 (UTC)
 * You may be looking in the wrong place. Try Bash Street School. ;-) -- ChrisO (talk) 14:36, 28 September 2008 (UTC)


 * Keep. There are definitely sources to support notability - I found several straight away on Google Books (not searchable, unfortunately, but I should be able to get my hands on the hard copy versions). As a general note, "higher party schools" were extremely important institutions in Communist countries - there is no real equivalent in the West, but they were the equivalent of elite academies for people who were being groomed as the next generation of Communist leaders. The system of party schools was a Soviet innovation in the late 1940s which was copied in many other communist states. I see we don't have an article on the subject - I'll add that to my list of things to do. -- ChrisO (talk) 11:04, 28 September 2008 (UTC)


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