Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/VF-17 Nightmare


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was   delete. slakr \ talk / 11:49, 11 February 2014 (UTC)

VF-17 Nightmare

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This does not establish notability independent of Macross 7 through the inclusion of real world information from reliable, third party sources. Most of the information is made up of plot details and in-depth product details better suited to Wikia. There is no current assertion for future improvement of the article, so extended coverage is unnecessary. I am also nominating these articles with the same issues:
 * TTN (talk) 17:25, 19 January 2014 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Fictional elements-related deletion discussions. TTN (talk) 17:34, 19 January 2014 (UTC)
 * TTN (talk) 17:25, 19 January 2014 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Fictional elements-related deletion discussions. TTN (talk) 17:34, 19 January 2014 (UTC)


 * Delete all. This kind of excessive detail belongs on Wikia.  None of these articles have demonstrated notability through significant coverage.  Wikipedia is not a free web host for fansites. NinjaRobotPirate (talk) 06:01, 20 January 2014 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Japan-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k (talk) 00:20, 21 January 2014 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Television-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k (talk) 00:21, 21 January 2014 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Anime and manga-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k (talk) 00:21, 21 January 2014 (UTC)


 * Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.


 * Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Northamerica1000(talk) 01:14, 29 January 2014 (UTC)


 * Merge all to List of Macross vehicles as the "Macross" fictional universe uses its transformable vehicles as stars of the shows, and highly profitable marketing toys. Most of the Macross universe vehicles can be thus merged (and trimmed shorter as necessary). Tag for expansion to cover the real world merchandising results (sales, penetration, marketability, trademark infringement, etc). -- 70.50.148.248 (talk) 07:51, 4 February 2014 (UTC)
 * UPDATE-SMERGE all to variable fighter which is missing the merchandising/tpys and real world information. NOTE a "merge" is not a simple cut-and-paste, editorial control is implicit in the process, meaning that not everything needs to be moved. -- 70.50.148.248 (talk) 00:24, 6 February 2014 (UTC)
 * Delete all. Merging several long but cruft pages would create a longer cruft page that would still fail to conform to the policies mentioned by the nominator. A summary of notable toys could be included in the main article, which presently doesn't cover any franchise material like toys. But such material would need to be referenced to secondary sources. Otherwise this type of content is simply advert even if written by fans; see this for more explanation on the matter. Someone not using his real name (talk) 20:14, 4 February 2014 (UTC)
 * And by the way, the poorly titled variable fighter page is the top-level article/list for the Marcross planes. So we don't need to create a new one. Given the sourcing there, I don't see why sub-articles are justified for many of these. Someone not using his real name (talk) 20:11, 5 February 2014 (UTC)
 * Delete all. As per NinjaRobotPirate. Bondegezou (talk) 13:55, 7 February 2014 (UTC)
 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.