Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/VF2218


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The result was   nomination withdrawn as a commenter found proper evidence to support a redirect instead. Bearcat (talk) 01:33, 24 August 2016 (UTC)

VF2218

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Delete. For reasons I've explained in other recent AFDs, VF stations in Canada are no longer granted the same presumption of notability that full-power radio stations get -- and in this case, even the CRTC's website has no record of any decision notices about it even before this class of station became mostly exempt from CRTC licensing, making its operational status even more unverifiable than usual. A station in this class of broadcasters could still have an article if it could be sourced over WP:GNG, but is not entitled to one whose only source is inclusion in a directory. Bearcat (talk) 22:13, 23 August 2016 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Radio-related deletion discussions. Bearcat (talk) 22:55, 23 August 2016 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of British Columbia-related deletion discussions. Bearcat (talk) 22:56, 23 August 2016 (UTC)


 * My own search of the CRTC's website produced this decision that, amongst the authorization of several television retransmissions, also authorized what seem to be the two radio transmitters this article is about (since it essentially covers VF2219 as well as VF2218). (The REC database, using Industry Canada data, mentions a CRTC decision number of "930434" for both VF2218 and VF2219, which probably corresponds to the "93-434" number on the CRTC decision itself. The decision also seems to say that the transmitters were licensed to Shalalth, as opposed to Seton Portage as shown in more recent data; the two communities neighbor each other) As the decision mentions, the 103.5 facility — which would be VF2218; CRTC decisions for brand new stations rarely if ever mention the likely-not-yet-assigned call signs — was slated to be a rebroadcaster of CFMI-FM, while 106.1 — VF2219 — was to rebroadcast CBU-FM. I haven't found anything more recent than that 1993 decision regarding the two transmitters, but I suspect that they are still rebroadcasters. VF stations don't get the presumption of notability for broadcast stations as it is; rebroadcasters simply aren't notable at all if they have never originated their own programming. Barring any evidence suggesting otherwise, the VF2218 page should redirect to CFMI-FM. It's either that or deletion; there is no reason why VF2218 or VF2219 need a separate article (that will never be more than a permastub anyway, since there's not much you can say about a rebroadcaster, which is why they generally aren't supposed to have their own articles). (Note that neither VF2218 or VF2219 are presently mentioned on the articles for CFMI-FM and CBU-FM, but that might not mean anything.) -- WC  Quidditch  &#9742;   &#9998;  01:09, 24 August 2016 (UTC)
 * Thanks for this; being licensed to Shalalth is why I missed that decision (as I had searched on "Seton Portage"). But yes, it confirms that this was a rebroadcaster rather than an originating station — which isn't all that surprising, because even for the licensee's other radio or television transmitters in the area that I was able to locate on the CRTC website on my own, "community owned rebroadcaster of something from Vancouver" is what every last one of them was too — so I'm going to withdraw this and go straight to redirect. Bearcat (talk) 01:33, 24 August 2016 (UTC)


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