Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/VKG Elektrivõrgud


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The result was   keep. joe deckertalk to me 15:31, 14 July 2011 (UTC)

VKG Elektrivõrgud

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Maybe important or notable enough, but most of the article is written by an editor with the same name as the webaddress of the company. At least there is a Conflict of Interest, if not clear self-promotion. Night of the Big Wind (talk) 14:56, 7 July 2011 (UTC)


 * Provisional keep if we can find sources that back up this second-largest-electricity-distribution-company-in-Estonia thing (although to be honest it sort of reminds me of some airline's radio ad years ago making fun of other airlines' ads ... one such spoof had this regal brass fanfare-like music playing with a narrator intoning: "We're the sixth largest carrier in the northwestern free world. The world is ours. The sky is ours.You are ours."). COI will not be a further problem as I have blocked the account indefinitely for username violations. Daniel Case (talk) 15:38, 7 July 2011 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Estonia-related deletion discussions.  — • Gene93k (talk) 23:59, 7 July 2011 (UTC)
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 * Comment Estonia is a very small country in population terms. Being second largest electricity distribution company in the country still only gets it a claimed 35,000 customers. The question will almost certainly be whether it has sufficient local notability. --AJHingston (talk) 00:18, 8 July 2011 (UTC)


 * Keep. There are enough reliable sources to establish notability (e.g. Google News gives 35 archive search results and 3 recenet news result without PR releases. There are even more results if the forms of company's former name are included). Although one may say that larger companies are more important, the notability guidelines does not list the size as inclusion criteria. Also, WP:COI is not a valid reason for deletion if notability criteria is fulfilled, and the COI issue is already solved. Beagel (talk) 04:08, 8 July 2011 (UTC)
 * Weak keep The refs supplied so far in the article tend to be directory listings or press-release items. A major utility in a country could be expected to have some news articles, at least in the language of its country, so there is a good likelihood more sources can be found if someone fluent in that language searches. WP:ORG provides no "inherent notability" for being "the second largest" or even "the largest" something in a small country. Yet the business is verified as being an important part of the energy infrastructure of the country. The COI problem raised by the nominator as his sole reason for deletion have been resolved. The nominator even said "Maybe important or notable enough.." which is no deletion argument at all in terms of notability. If deleted, it could be merged to the "Infrastructure" section of Economy of Estonia. Edison (talk) 19:40, 8 July 2011 (UTC)
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