Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Vagbhatananda Gurudevar


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The result was keep. John254 00:05, 12 August 2008 (UTC)

Vagbhatananda Gurudevar

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Bio of religious activist. Although he may be associated with notable people, he is not notable by himself. Thanks. Ism schism (talk) 15:08, 7 August 2008 (UTC)
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Keep for now because he is famous. Will look around for references in due course. Tintin 15:28, 7 August 2008 (UTC)
 * I couldn't keep the word about the references. Hopefully Priyanath's refs are sufficient for the time being. Tintin 15:28, 11 August 2008 (UTC)

Very weak keep, waiting for Tintin to produce sources, else delete as BIO and SPAM per nom. Gorgonzola (talk) 15:38, 7 August 2008 (UTC)

Reply I have looked for references and was not able to find any. I hope there are other sources that I was not able to find. There are two issues that I am concerned with. What is Vagbhatananda Gurudevar famous for, and what reliable sources back up this claim to being famous? Thanks. Ism schism (talk) 15:41, 7 August 2008 (UTC)
 * I did a keep because he is fairly well-known in Kerala as a social reformer & philosopher, and his association with Narayana Guru and author/scholar Sukumar Azhikode (the latter considers him as his guru and often talks/writes about him). Perhaps I should have looked around a bit more before commenting. I have access to a couple of encyclopaedias in Malayalam. If they don't have an entry for him, I'll have to withdraw the keep. Tintin 15:59, 7 August 2008 (UTC)


 * Very Weak Keep References in the article but, unsure of how the verification process works for non-internet based sources. I don't see an outright statement of importance or significance though and I'm not sure whether any of the external links really apply so... Jasynnash2 (talk) 15:50, 7 August 2008 (UTC)


 * Strong Keep He was notable in Kerala for fighting for civil rights and more. References include:
 * Peasantry and the Anti-Imperialist Struggles in Kerala
 * Author(s): K. K. N. Kurup
 * Source: Social Scientist, Vol. 16, No. 9 (Sep., 1988), pp. 35-45
 * Publisher: Social Scientist
 * Stable URL: http://www.jstor.org/stable/3517171
 * CONTRIBUTION OF BRAHMAN AN DASVAMI SIVAYOGI AND VAGBHATANANDA TO THE RENAISSANCE OF KERALA
 * B Sivayogi - Studies in Kerala Sanskrit Literature, 2004 - Publication Division, ::University of Calicut
 * Studies in Kerala Sanskrit Literature
 * By En. Vi. Pi Uṇittiri, University of Calicut
 * Published by Publication Division, University of Calicut, 2004
 * ISBN 9788177480665
 * Peasantry, Nationalism, and Social Change in India
 * By K. K. N. Kurup
 * Published by Chugh Publications, 1991
 * p. 126
 * There are many more where these came from.
 * Ism and tintin - please note that people who are notable for various social and religious movements are often not famous. Famous is not a requirement for notability on Wikipedia, though it may be important for People magazine, etc. ~ priyanath talk 16:05, 7 August 2008 (UTC)
 * I think you'll find Ism's comment about fame was in regards to the "Keep for now because he is famous" statement by tintin. Jasynnash2 (talk) 16:11, 7 August 2008 (UTC)
 * I see - I've just added tintin to my comment, then. Thanks. ~ priyanath talk 16:25, 7 August 2008 (UTC)
 * Priyanath, can you expand the article a bit based on your references. I am struggling a bit because I don't have too many print sources. Tintin 16:16, 7 August 2008 (UTC)
 * I honestly don't have time right now - I was able to find those sources very quickly and easily with Google Scholar and Google Books. Perhaps Ism or another editor would consider improving the article. Regardless, I think this AfD is well on the way to proving notability. The article should be kept on those grounds alone, whether it's improved right now or not. ~ priyanath talk 16:25, 7 August 2008 (UTC)


 * Keep Sources have been provided above. Beware of WP:BIAS AfD hero (talk) 16:36, 7 August 2008 (UTC)
 * Keep. Listed sources above convince me of notability. --Quartermaster (talk) 16:50, 7 August 2008 (UTC)
 * Keep - A very famous goodman in South India and Eelam.Pectoretalk 23:51, 7 August 2008 (UTC)


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