Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Valea Făgetului River (Misir)


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The result was delete. Randykitty (talk) 15:12, 21 May 2019 (UTC)

Valea Făgetului River (Misir)

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The article is probably a hoax. The river does not exist on maps or in its vicinity. Apart from that, it has no information other than it exists. Oshawott 12 ==== Talk to me!  04:04, 7 May 2019 (UTC)
 * Delete I have spent a long time looking into this river and see no existence of it being real. I a valley with this name but the two closest rivers were named Raul Aries and Mures who share a Romanian Wikipedia article and don't seem to mention this place. Following up the chain of articles starting with the article proper leads me to the Crișul Repede which looks to be in a whole different part of the country than the valley. Best, Barkeep49 (talk) 04:19, 7 May 2019 (UTC)
 * It is a very small river indeed. I have found it on one map: https://bihor-county.map2web.eu/. It is about 4 km south of the village Șuncuiuș and 2-3 km northeast of Zece Hotare, around 46.911°N, 22.517°W. From what I see there it may be 3 km long. I don't think it's notable, that's why I redirected it to the river it flows into, Misir (which was reverted by an anonymus). Markussep Talk 07:31, 7 May 2019 (UTC)
 * Well that's something - thanks! I couldn't verify whether it even existed either. -- Elmidae (talk · contribs) 01:50, 12 May 2019 (UTC)
 * I agree. I'm not sure this is a useful redirect but redirects are cheap so no big deal. Best, Barkeep49 (talk) 02:23, 12 May 2019 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Romania-related deletion discussions.  CAPTAIN RAJU (T) 05:21, 7 May 2019 (UTC)


 * Probably not a hoax per User:Markussep, but redirect to Misir anyway, ditto. – John M Wolfson (talk &#124; contribs) 21:37, 7 May 2019 (UTC)
 * Keep ... every river on earth is notable. 77.13.19.9 (talk) 02:05, 8 May 2019 (UTC)
 * Not necessarily. From WP:GEOLAND, Named natural features are often notable, provided information beyond statistics and coordinates is known to exist. This includes mountains, lakes, streams, islands, etc. The number of known sources should be considered to ensure there is enough verifiable content for an encyclopedic article. If a Wikipedia article cannot be developed using known sources, information on the feature can instead be included in a more general article on local geography. For example, a river island with no information available except name and location should probably be described in an article on the river. (Emphasis mine.) As such, we should describe this in the article of the Misir since it doesn't have enough information for its own article. – John M Wolfson (talk &#124; contribs) 02:11, 8 May 2019 (UTC)
 * "We" should stop using "we" in discussions, when posting opinions. 77.13.19.9 (talk) 02:17, 8 May 2019 (UTC)
 * It's an accepted guideline, not an opinion. Markussep Talk 08:15, 8 May 2019 (UTC)
 * He was referring to the statement by John M Wolfson, not to the guideline. Mosaicberry (talk • contribs) 20:01, 14 May 2019 (UTC)
 * It was still a bit insolent and wiseacre-y, IMO. In any event I still think we should redirect per my earlier statement. – John M Wolfson (talk • contribs) 20:13, 14 May 2019 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Geography-related deletion discussions. Coolabahapple (talk) 14:08, 9 May 2019 (UTC)

 Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
 * Redirect to Misir, for reasons above (i note that the Romanian WP has an article on Valea Făgetului, Alba only, and its around 80miles away from this location). Coolabahapple (talk) 14:23, 9 May 2019 (UTC)

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks,  Sandstein   10:26, 14 May 2019 (UTC)
 * Delete - I would say Redirect, but the Misir article does not mention Valea Făgetului River - does not meet WP:GEOLAND guideline "Named natural features" which requires verifiable sources - the article doesn't even give geographical coordinates - One sentence does not an article make - therefore, delete - Epinoia (talk) 00:25, 20 May 2019 (UTC)
 * It does mention Valea Făgetului, in the infobox. That's not much, I know. BTW WP:1S is an essay (which I don't quite agree with), not a guideline. Markussep Talk 07:20, 20 May 2019 (UTC)


 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.