Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Valentina Ponomaryova (singer)


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was keep. per WP:SNOW. and WP:HEY sources added into the article to establish the notability. (non-admin closure)  D Big X ray ᗙ  15:27, 12 September 2018 (UTC)

Valentina Ponomaryova (singer)

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Non notable singer, page is completely unreferenced and no indication of coverage anywhere on the internet aNode   (discuss)  06:42, 5 September 2018 (UTC)
 * Comment: In reviewing her album with Bill Laswell, Sergey Kuryokhin, etc., Thom Jurek described the subject as "a legend in Eastern Europe for her four-octave range, her ability to improvise modally and tonally with any instrument on the planet, and her near inexhaustible energy". AllyD (talk) 07:43, 5 September 2018 (UTC)
 * Yeah, one can describe her like that, but it doesn't save the fact that she has very little coverage online thus showing that she's not notable, plus the whole article is unreferenced breaking WP:BLP policies. aNode   (discuss)  12:21, 5 September 2018 (UTC)
 * I don't disagree about the lack in referencing of the original article translated from the Russian equivalent (and would also caution about some of the External Links offered, as they are triggering malware warnings). The Russian source article also lacks coverage of the subject's musical activities during the 80s and 90s which brought her wider attention. I have added some material on that, as well as flagging the need for BLP sources on the earlier biography. AllyD (talk) 08:08, 6 September 2018 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Russia-related deletion discussions.  CAPTAIN RAJU (T) 10:48, 5 September 2018 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Women-related deletion discussions.  CAPTAIN RAJU (T) 10:49, 5 September 2018 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Bands and musicians-related deletion discussions.  CAPTAIN RAJU (T) 10:49, 5 September 2018 (UTC)


 * Keep. Plenty of coverage online if you look for the usual spelling of her name: Valentina Ponomareva. The article should be moved to this spelling, rather than the present more literal transliteration. Note also that the Russian article cites plenty of sources. --Deskford (talk) 23:39, 5 September 2018 (UTC)
 * Keep: This may be the first AfD of an article of whose subject I have one LP in her own name, another anthology featuring her, and possibly also an anthology CD somewhere. Not in itself a reason to keep, but these are all from the phases of her activities which were omitted from the focus on her earlier institutional career in the original translated-Russian article, but which have now been appended to the text, and referenced. I haven't been able to find my copy of a further print item which could add further, but I think there is now enough to demonstrate the subject's WP:MUSICBIO notability. AllyD (talk) 10:39, 12 September 2018 (UTC)
 * Comment Deskford and AllyD see WP:MUSTBESOURCES it will really help this AfD if you can add the link of the strong sources you are talking about. claiming Strong sources exist isn't a satisfactory argument to make. -- D Big X ray ᗙ  12:40, 12 September 2018 (UTC)
 * To clarify on sources, in my "keep" opinion I was relying on the articles I had referenced into the article (Efim Barban, Jon Corbett, Ben Watson) and linked previously in the discussion (Thom Jurek). AllyD (talk) 13:31, 12 September 2018 (UTC)
 * AllyD please accept my apology, I failed to notice that you have commented twice on this AfD. regards. -- D Big X ray ᗙ  15:07, 12 September 2018 (UTC)
 * Thanks for adding the sources in. Does she have any charting singles though? aNode   (discuss)  14:30, 12 September 2018 (UTC)

 Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus. Relisting comment: The Keep comments are weak and based on WP:MUSTBESOURCES

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks,  D Big X ray ᗙ  12:41, 12 September 2018 (UTC)
 * Keep. The Russian-language version of the article is a bit messy, but gives a number of reliable sources. Agree with 'keep' votes above. Bondegezou (talk) 15:07, 12 September 2018 (UTC)


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