Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Valentine Ligny


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was delete. Clear consensus that the article shouldn't be retained below. Inclusion in the list of supercentenarians appears to be sufficient so no merge required. Daniel (talk) 09:20, 4 September 2021 (UTC)

Valentine Ligny

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This article has nothing more than extremely trivial and non-notable content on the life of a person who has never done anything more than live to a very advanced age. Possibly the only useful paragraph in the whole article is the last one, and I propose that either the article be merged to a mini-bio at List of French supercentenarians or that it be deleted completely. 🐔 Chicdat Bawk to me!  10:51, 17 August 2021 (UTC)
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 Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
 * Keep Passes GNG with citations to Le Courrier Picard, France 3, and France Bleu. You might not think that someone should be notable for living to an advanced age (I sometimes think that people shouldn't be notable for playing sports), but if there are multiple reliable sources that are independent of the subject, they're in. Furius (talk) 16:38, 18 August 2021 (UTC)
 * That's just fanfluff. 🐔 Chicdat Bawk to me!  10:37, 28 August 2021 (UTC)
 * Delete. As per numerous other Afds of supercentenarians, extreme age alone is not an indication of notability (per WP:BIO1E. WP:NOPAGE trumps GNG, all worthwhile encyclopedic information is contained in List of French supercentenarians.  DerbyCountyinNZ  (Talk Contribs) 22:25, 18 August 2021 (UTC)

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, ✗  plicit  11:53, 24 August 2021 (UTC)
 * Delete- being supercentenarian alone does not neccessarily require person's article. Mention of her in List of supercentenarians by continent and other lists should be enough.-- Melaleuca alternifolia  |  talk  15:28, 24 August 2021 (UTC)


 * Delete. Apart from being particularly old, she hasn't accomplished anything more in her life that a "normal" person has, and as such, I believe merits no article here. MattSucci (talk) 16:12, 24 August 2021 (UTC)


 * Keep Per Furius. 172.58.107.255 (talk) 08:40, 26 August 2021 (UTC)


 * Keep Meets WP:GNG. 45.144.113.202 (talk) 22:20, 28 August 2021 (UTC)
 * Note to closer As a longtime editor in the topic of longevity, please look at the blocked edits on my talk page and the conversations I was mentioned in at here. The two above keep votes are not genuine and are by the same blocked editor. Newshunter12 (talk) 15:27, 3 September 2021 (UTC)
 * Delete per Chicdat and DerbyCounty. The sources that supposedly cause this article to meet GNG all detail mundane life facts that do not make a person notable. The subject's notability is solely contingent on her supercentenarian status, which means that BIO1E trumps GNG. Avilich (talk) 23:19, 28 August 2021 (UTC)
 * Merge Meets WP:GNG, but the article is too trivial for a relatively unknown person. I'd recommend merging it into the List of French supercentenarians, as a blurb over there would suffice. Fakescientist8000 (talk) 12:19, 2 September 2021 (UTC)
 * Delete Per WP:NOPAGE. All the encyclopedic content (name, life dates, nationality, age) are included succinctly at List of French supercentenarians and elsewhere. The article is fanfluff puffery, which is why half or more of the article is about other people, not her. Newshunter12 (talk) 15:27, 3 September 2021 (UTC)
 * Delete, as per WP:NOPAGE. MrsSnoozyTurtle 01:20, 4 September 2021 (UTC)
 * Keep Passes WP:GNG. WP:NOPAGE doesn't apply. 172.58.107.175 (talk) 04:20, 4 September 2021 (UTC)
 * Which sources in particular do you think demonstrate that GNG is met? Regards, MrsSnoozyTurtle 06:48, 4 September 2021 (UTC)


 * Delete - As others have mentioned, WP:BIO1E is an issue here. None of the sources seem to demonstrate why she is notable beyond her age. Inclusion in the lists mentioned by Melaleuca and Derby is sufficient. - Pax  Verbum  07:07, 4 September 2021 (UTC)


 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.