Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Valentino Jorno


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The result was delete. Seems like the links provided appear to be unreliable (that other articles use them does not say anything about their reliability - see WP:OSE) and SoundCloud not suitable to establish notability. Jo-Jo Eumerus (talk, contributions) 09:12, 1 September 2016 (UTC)

Valentino Jorno

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Tired of the COI editors adding WP:PRIMARY sources and removing templates. The subject fails WP:GNG and WP:MUSICBIO. Walter Görlitz (talk) 05:28, 18 August 2016 (UTC)
 * Delete as a good faith Google search yields no evidence that this person is notable. Whether or not the nominator is tired or wide awake is irrelevant to the notability of the topic. Cullen328  Let's discuss it  05:38, 18 August 2016 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of People-related deletion discussions. Regards,  KC Velaga   ✉  10:04, 18 August 2016 (UTC)
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 * delete As i also didn't find any reliable sources on Hebrew. Arthistorian1977 (talk) 14:13, 18 August 2016 (UTC)
 * Delete non-notable musician.John Pack Lambert (talk) 08:39, 20 August 2016 (UTC)
 * Keep see the links in Discogs.com, thedjlist.com , beatport.com and more. 5.28.161.109 (talk) 15:20, 20 August 2016 (UTC)
 * Discogs isn't a enough to be a reliable source. Nor are the others. Cheers. Walter Görlitz (talk) 17:54, 20 August 2016 (UTC)
 * Then Walter Görlitz why such as those pages have no more than one source: Skazi, Absolum, Transwave, Talamasca (group),Deedrah,3D Vision Records, and many more (I can keep searching for similar pages on wiki), they exist without any problem, why they aren't deleted ? their only source is Discogs , those are only some examples of pages that exist for long time without any source except of Discogs, so you consider them notable ? while Valentino Jorno was created with many sources and will add more soon, simply I didn't pick up all google search results, will do that soon. Sharon2011 (talk) 10:55, 21 August 2016 (UTC)
 * If what you say about those other articles is true,, and if better sources cannot be found, then all of those articles should also be deleted. We do not keep bad articles just because other bad articles exist. We either improve or delete bad articles. Cullen328  Let's discuss it  22:07, 21 August 2016 (UTC)
 * Correct Cullen328. There's an essay to that effect at WP:OSE. Walter Görlitz (talk) 22:38, 21 August 2016 (UTC)
 * Comment A few days ago, Sharon2011, the article's creator, blanked it. I restored the article, not realizing that Sharon2011 had created it. The act of blanking may qualify the article for speedy deletion under criterion G7; perhaps somebody ought to tag it with db-blanked and get an administrator's opinion. — Malik Shabazz Talk/Stalk 23:57, 20 August 2016 (UTC)


 * Keep I didn't delete it, saved it blank by mistake when I was editing it. hope this clarify the technical error that happened , thanks  Malik Shabazz for fixing this. Sharon2011 (talk) 00:16, 21 August 2016 (UTC)
 * That clarifies why you blanked it. Now why, based on WP:MUSICBIO, should be kept? Walter Görlitz (talk) 01:03, 21 August 2016 (UTC)
 * Excuse me Mr.Walter Görlitz, that doesn't clarify anything, you can't talk instead of me , I said that it was a technical error, instead of click "Show Preview" I clicked "Save page" when it was blank , I wanted to make a test before I edit in order not to delete the template, simply am not familiar with the templates so I wanted to see their position, then to make edits. is that clear now ? or my english is complex ? Sharon2011 (talk) 10:40, 21 August 2016 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Sharon2011 (talk • contribs) 10:38, 21 August 2016 (UTC)
 * I'm sorry that you misunderstood what I wrote. All I was trying to say was that Malik Shabazz suggested that you blanked the page which constituted grounds for speed deletion. That means we could stop this discussion and move on with deleting the article. I didn't talk instead of you either, I tried to seek clarification on a what was being discussed. So now that we understand that you made an error when editing and did not intend to delete the article, could you please explain, based on the rules of MUSICBIO (linked above) or WP:GNG why this the subject of this article is notable? Several editors have stated that we can find nothing to support the subject's notability, at least not based on those two criteria and on the searches we conducted. If you can help point us in the direction of some reliable sources that are independent of the subject that discuss the subject at length, we can close this discussion and keep the article on the English Wikipedia project. Failing that, an administrator will likely delete the article. Walter Görlitz (talk) 16:59, 21 August 2016 (UTC)
 * That's ok :), now you explained better. so, in addition to the sources that I've mentioned in the page , I will look deeper in google and bring links of articles,reviews/interviews related to artist that were published in some magazines of electronic music and night clubs journals/websites , I don't have personally the links since I have no connection with the artist , but I will do my best to bring them soon from google, will let you know when it's done. best regards Sharon2011 (talk) 17:17, 21 August 2016 (UTC)
 * Enlighten me please Walter Görlitz, does SoundCloud charts count in ? because there a lot of tracks of Valentino and his other stage names (PsyShark , VJorno , Valentino Jorno) he is already few months in row in Top1 position and additional positions in charts, and that's actually what made wonder why he doesn't have a page on wiki, so what do you think ?. Sharon2011 (talk) 18:03, 21 August 2016 (UTC)
 * No SoundCloud is not a chart because they are WP:SINGLEVENDOR charts. And drop the attitude. I linked you to MUSICBIO and GNG. That's the criteria. Walter Görlitz (talk) 21:57, 21 August 2016 (UTC)
 * Delete - i couldn't find any non-primary reliable sources to indicate notability. Firkin Flying Fox (talk) 08:39, 21 August 2016 (UTC)
 * Delete as nothing at all comes close to both the needed independent notability and substance for both convincing improvements and then solidity. SwisterTwister   talk  04:55, 31 August 2016 (UTC)


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