Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Valerie Gregori McKenzie (2nd nomination)


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was delete. –  Juliancolton  &#124; Talk 18:02, 14 November 2015 (UTC)

Valerie Gregori McKenzie
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Still questionably notable and improvable as five years have passed since that last AfD and there is no obviously better improvement with the best my searches finding this and this. It's also worth noting this started in November 2007 but was not touched until February 2009 (1 bot tagging) and August 2009. Pinging, , , and. SwisterTwister  talk  23:44, 22 October 2015 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of People-related deletion discussions.  SwisterTwister   talk  23:44, 22 October 2015 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Fashion-related deletion discussions.  SwisterTwister   talk  23:44, 22 October 2015 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of France-related deletion discussions.  SwisterTwister   talk  23:44, 22 October 2015 (UTC)


 * Comment: I'll respectfully defer to community consensus as determined from the outcome of this discussion here. Good luck, &mdash; Cirt (talk) 23:45, 22 October 2015 (UTC)
 * wow, an AfD from 5 years ago.  SwisterTwister, how do you find articles like this one to nominate?  I'll take a look again.  it appears i did not improve it back then, but i did confirm there was available sourcing.--Milowent • hasspoken  00:36, 23 October 2015 (UTC)
 * Haha,, I've recently made a consistent habit searching for these articles using Special:RandomInCategory (orphaned, no sources, needing cleaning and promotional). Excellent question and thanks for asking,  SwisterTwister   talk  00:51, 23 October 2015 (UTC)

 Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
 * She has attracted some attention in The New York Times and this book. 86.24.88.241 (talk) 12:55, 25 October 2015 (UTC)

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, — UY Scuti Talk  18:32, 29 October 2015 (UTC)  Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, KTC (talk) 03:06, 6 November 2015 (UTC)
 * Delete - but no prejudice against an appropriate recreation further down the line when notability can be established. I did not find sufficient sources about the person to justify her having an article, and what there was seemed very flimsy. Checked on Highbeam, NYT archive, as well as Google. I do see quite a few hits for her in travel books and magazines on Google Books, but mostly advertorials/promotion. I am sure that if someone was prepared to put in a lot of extra work, the article MIGHT be able to be brought up to minimal standard, but what I see doesn't lead me to believe that it could easily be done. The current article is full of redlinks (suggesting that her notabilities aren't that notable in themselves) and some of the tone is very promotional and sounds like PR speak. Mabalu (talk) 17:11, 12 November 2015 (UTC)
 * Mabalu's comments are pretty much on point. I held out hope for this article 5 years ago.--Milowent • hasspoken  18:31, 12 November 2015 (UTC)


 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.