Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Valerie Smith (social activist)


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The result was no consensus. Arguments for keep are relatively weak, with one arguing more for the campaign being notable than her. I don't think an additional relist would be that helpful at this point. TonyBallioni (talk) 21:55, 25 July 2020 (UTC)

Valerie Smith (social activist)

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Of the two non-broken links in the article, neither gives the subject more than a namedrop. No evidence of reliable sources providing substantive coverage to the subject proffered in over a decade. Fails the GNG.   Ravenswing     14:01, 9 July 2020 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Women-related deletion discussions.  Megan Barris   (Lets talk📧)  14:23, 9 July 2020 (UTC)
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 * Delete a non-notable activist.John Pack Lambert (talk) 13:25, 10 July 2020 (UTC)
 * Keep. Here are some sources about Smith in reputable (mostly Canadian) media: CBC News article about critiques of 50 Cent biopic, Now Toronto article about case against HMV, National post article, and MTV article about Eminem controvery. Seems to me to meet WP:BASIC by having multiple independant sources constituting sigcov and is not WP:BLP1E because they're not just about the Eminem 'event'. (WP:NEXIST and WP:BEFORE. The current sourcing of an article has no bearing on notability. Remember to always check for sources before voting delete/nominating an article for deletion.) Samsmachado (talk) 03:56, 11 July 2020 (UTC)
 * Did that, thank you. I remain unsatisfied that there is substantive coverage about Smith, as opposed to her quixotic crusade. (That you say this is not a BLP1E issue is also somewhat puzzling; it's also not a SYNTH, a NOR or a SOCK issue, to enumerate other policies not raised in the nomination.)   Ravenswing      12:15, 11 July 2020 (UTC)
 * I mentioned BLP1E assuming that someone would come along making a claim that Smith is not notable that it is only her "quixotic crusade" (ie. an event) that is notable. (Further, I mentioned BLP1E because when I was just skimming the surface of sourcing about Smith it was mostly about her involvement with Eminem and I feared others might come to a BLP1E conclusion.) The argument you make here is a perfect example of the kind of discussion I anticipated as, in my opinion, you seem to be claiming there is sigcov not about Smith but about the "events" she has been involved in. Samsmachado (talk) 14:33, 11 July 2020 (UTC)

 Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
 * Keep. I think there's a reasonable argument to be made that she is notable only for her long-running and apparently single-person "media violence" campaign. That she and her campaign have received significant coverage over an extended period indicates that one or both are notable. I would consider supporting a proposal to move this page if there were consensus for a new name. The name of her website, Free Radical, is too ambiguous, as is Action Agenda (and probably inaccurate). pburka (talk) 16:46, 11 July 2020 (UTC)

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks,  D My Son  05:05, 18 July 2020 (UTC)
 * Keep I believe this article can stay for the coverage she has earned as a long standing advocate of a better society. Nika2020 (talk) 05:40, 24 July 2020 (UTC)


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