Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Valerie Soe


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The result was   delete. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 00:36, 27 June 2012 (UTC)

Valerie Soe

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Has WP:Verifiability issues. There's also WP:Notability issues. For creative she fails 1,2,3,5 and 4 is very hard to gauge. Everyone Dies In the End (talk) 06:44, 12 June 2012 (UTC)
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 * Comment: Article format needs major correcting and some of its content does appear to be verifiable, and she may actually squeek up on WP:GNG and WP:CREATIVE, as she appears to have a minor notability in asian film documetray studies.  Schmidt,  MICHAEL Q. 02:19, 15 June 2012 (UTC)
 * Creative needs to have feature length films. The only one I can see her somehow making is 4 but I don't think short film festivals really count. The best way to look at it is if her short films themselves deserve an article and they don't. None of her works are here List_of_independent_short_films --Everyone Dies In the End (talk) 06:00, 15 June 2012 (UTC)
 * No... WP:CREATIVE does not require feature films, nor does it require that her films have articles. What it requires is that a production, no matter their size or type, wcan be determinable as notable (even without a WP article) and that she has significant part in that producton. It might be that we now have the possibility of several new articles, but notability is not dependent upon the articles actually being written by anyone. I note from experience here, that your chosen short list is woefully far from comprehensive, as we have many many many articles on short independent films which have never been added to that list... Take This Lollipop is one example.  Schmidt,  MICHAEL Q. 10:30, 15 June 2012 (UTC)
 * I misread 3 of creative so you are right about the feature film thing. Also, my main points isn't that here short films don't have article but you won't find any (or very little) reliable third party sources about them besides blogs. Not enough to make an article. I can't find reliable sources about the plot, reviews, etc. --Everyone Dies In the End (talk) 11:42, 15 June 2012 (UTC)


 * Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.


 * Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Ron Ritzman (talk) 00:50, 19 June 2012 (UTC)


 * Delete. No claim of notability beyond a collection of extremely obscure awards and her work itself has not been noted. Positions as asst prof and blogger are not notable per se. SPA-created and full of WP:OR suggests possibility this is a fanpage or autobio. Agricola44 (talk) 18:10, 19 June 2012 (UTC).
 * Weak Delete -- tough choice because there is some evidence of notability, but not enough and position as asst. prof. argues against. -- Michael Scott Cuthbert (talk) 18:29, 26 June 2012 (UTC)
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