Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Valery Marakou


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The result was   no consensus.  MBisanz  talk 02:56, 19 January 2009 (UTC)

Valery Marakou

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Unable to find any English language refs suggesting the topic of this article is notable. If there are references in other languages giving rise to that conclusion, please identify. Generally, while the actions of state security in the Warsaw Pact countries were tragic and in aggregate notable, no every victim of those acts is automatically notable. Bongo matic  01:01, 9 January 2009 (UTC)


 * Weak Delete. Sadly, I must agree with nom. Neither Marakou nor his poetic works give much evidence of notability based on searches I made. Tim Ross   (talk)  16:11, 12 January 2009 (UTC)
 * Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so consensus may be reached. Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Ron Ritzman (talk) 00:04, 14 January 2009 (UTC)


 * Strong keep If this can be verified it seems very notable. Can we contact someone with the appropriate language skills to investigate? ChildofMidnight (talk) 07:22, 14 January 2009 (UTC)
 * What's the notable element here? Am I missing something? The claims seem to be:
 * Mentorship of national poet
 * Published four books
 * Arrested by agents of State Security twice
 * Tortured and ultimately killed
 * Works posthumously documented in a monograph by nephew
 * None of these seems to be a de facto argument for notability if proved. Rather, these are all things that might have attracted significant coverage in reliable sources independent of the subject (i.e., not the nephew of the subject), and the question is--have they attracted such coverage? Bongo  matic  08:19, 14 January 2009 (UTC)


 * Delete: Fails WP:BIO. Schuym1 (talk) 19:46, 14 January 2009 (UTC)
 * weak Keep Probably notable, but we need some more information--probably most of the poets of various nationalities that Stalin made a practice of destroying in groups period were notable, but there is no information that I can work with here. Are there corresponding articles in other WPs? DGG (talk) 02:13, 15 January 2009 (UTC)
 * Don't know how this "probability" can be assessed. The notability would not stem from being killed (unless specific victims were significantly coverage). Rather, it would stem from them receiving significant coverage. My guess (having spent time in the pre-Velvet Revolution Warsaw bloc) is that there were plenty of non-notable artists who were victims. Bongo  matic  02:26, 15 January 2009 (UTC)


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