Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Vampire fashion


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was   delete.  — fetch ·  comms   01:27, 14 July 2010 (UTC)

Vampire fashion

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As the article stands, it is original research. DimaG (talk) 01:38, 6 July 2010 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Fashion-related deletion discussions.  -- —  m o n o   01:42, 6 July 2010 (UTC)
 * Delete- no sources, clearly an essay-style bit of OR. Reyk  YO!  03:39, 6 July 2010 (UTC)
 * Delete if it cannot be sourced. J I P  &#124; Talk 06:00, 6 July 2010 (UTC)
 * Delete it now - steak through the heart. Shadowjams (talk) 08:50, 6 July 2010 (UTC)


 * [[Image:Symbol delete vote.svg|15px]] Delete — Unreferenced, fails verifiability, and is, per nom, original research ~Gosox(55)(55) 11:18, 6 July 2010 (UTC)
 * Delete per WP:OR and because it is annoying. No sources exist to prove that this is a true fashion movement worth talking about.    Snotty Wong   talk 16:10, 6 July 2010 (UTC)
 * Keep PLEASE! Take at least one second to click on the Google news link at the top of an AFD before commenting.  I'll list the first three results.
 * THE WASHINGTON TIMES : Dressed to kill - Fashion takes fangtastic...
 * $2.95 - Washington Times - NewsBank - Nov 13, 1992
 * Vampire fashion will get you this season if vampires themselves don't since, increasingly, what Hollywood makes, the world takes. The current cult is primed

So, a major news paper talks about vampire fashion, it fangtastic, because Hollywood made people want to dress that way.


 * St. Louis Post-Dispatch: DRACULA FEVER: FILM'S COSTUMES INSPIRE …
 * $2.95 - St. Louis Post-Dispatch - NewsBank - Nov 26, 1992
 * To that end, the studio hired Terry Melville to create a vampire fashion movement. Melville teamed up with young designers including Byron Lars, Zang Toi

A studio hired someone to work with notable designers to produce a vampire fashion movement.


 * Bloodsuckers on the seat of cool | The Australian
 * The Australian - May 15, 2010
 * ''Saint Augustine Academy's take on vampire fashion was to send its models down the runway in chain suspenders, spiked denim, black lippy and stick-on steel

Fashion shows already have models dressed in what it calls vampire fashion.''

Sounds rather notable to me. Plenty more where that came from, but I think the first three results prove it.  D r e a m Focus  16:17, 6 July 2010 (UTC)
 * Comment Just because there are a few articles mentioning "vampire fashion" wouldn't make it notable. Fashion is extremely referential obviously, and I don't think it's necessary to have an article for every type of possible reference in fashion. Otherwise, we'd have Safari fashion listing every time khakis and safari-style shirts are written up as a trend, etc etc... Military fashion, Nautical fashion, Bohemian fashion, Bondage fashion, Romantic fashion, you name it.... Just because clothing occasionally references typical romantic/vampire-esque influences doesn't mean an article is warranted. Calliopejen1 (talk) 19:42, 6 July 2010 (UTC)
 * Funny enough, several of those examples sound like they'd make interesting articles. We do have Alternative fashion, Fetish fashion, Gothic fashion, Heavy metal fashion, Hip hop fashion, Lolita fashion, Punk fashion, South American fashion, Street fashion, and Sustainable fashion. —  C M B J   21:02, 6 July 2010 (UTC)
 * Most of the examples you give are defensible and have a real history. (May need to AFD Alternative fashion at some point though - what a mess!) But here, how are we going to distinguish "vampire fashion" from "gothic fashion"? This "vampire fashion" is just a term that is thrown around from time to time without any real definition. We have a handful of mentions from publications that aren't exactly known for their cutting-edge fashion coverage. If anything, the use of this phrase indicates that goth influences become more significant in fashion as vampires become important in other cultural works. (Was Interview with a Vampire 1992? And now we've got another round for Twilight c. 2009-2010.) Basically nothing has been offered to distinguish "vampire fashion" from goth-influenced fashion generally. Without a real definition, the article is going to look like: "Joe Blow from the Washington Times mentioned vampire fashion in an article in 1992. Jane Doe mentioned vampire fashion in an article in 2010." etc etc. Changing my !vote to delete. Calliopejen1 (talk) 19:55, 7 July 2010 (UTC)
 * In any event, I see no logical reason why deletion should be preferred over redirection to goth fashion. I'll amend my !vote as well. —  C M B J   20:17, 7 July 2010 (UTC)


 * Weak keep or redirect - Fashion is undoubtedly an area of our project where we need additional content. A quick search for reliable sources yielded information from Trend Hunter, the NY Daily News, and the LA Times. —  C M B J   21:33, 6 July 2010 (UTC)
 * The LA times coverage is just a blog link to Trend Hunter. Calliopejen1 (talk) 19:55, 7 July 2010 (UTC)
 * The article does link to the Trend Hunter video, but it also provides a little contextual commentary on the subject. They've evidently done past articles on goth fashion, but they regard vampire fashion as something unique. —  C M B J   20:11, 7 July 2010 (UTC)


 * Delete only sources that could be found are trivial mentions or opinion pieces. There are a few real designers inspired by vampires but this article covers the fictional history of what "real" vampires have worn throughout "history". Total lack of factual material that has nothing to do with what some of the sources have found. Shooterwalker (talk) 15:13, 8 July 2010 (UTC)
 * Delete - no notability, fails WP:GNG, seems to be mostly WP:OR. Claritas § 22:50, 9 July 2010 (UTC)
 * Delete fails WP:GNG, trivial mention, WP:OR.  GregJackP    Boomer!  16:42, 13 July 2010 (UTC)
 * Redirect to Goth fashion. Dr. Blofeld       White cat 18:00, 13 July 2010 (UTC)
 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.