Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Vancouver Whitecaps FC Residency (2nd nomination)


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was redirect to Vancouver Whitecaps FC. Clear consensus not to keep the article. Going for a redirect in case people can salvage some content. Jo-Jo Eumerus (talk, contributions) 09:55, 13 November 2016 (UTC)

Vancouver Whitecaps FC Residency
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Resubmitting this article for deletion discussion. My first suggestion that this league was a youth league was proven wrong, fair enough, it's an academy team/league. But I honestly do not believe that a 4th tier, amateur-level US soccer/football academy league meets WP:GNG standards on its own. Here are my arguments against this: Now, I can agree with the opinion and would even support a Merge of this content to its respective parent club page, Vancouver Whitecaps FC. But on its own, this page fails. SanAnMan (talk) 13:53, 17 October 2016 (UTC)
 * 1) Per Notability (sports), all sports teams must meet Notability (organizations and companies) requirements, so my following points will discuss those aspects.
 * 2) Notability is not inherent. Arguments against this deletion often stated that "the consensus was that academy teams/leagues are notable." Per policy: "If the individual organization has received no or very little notice from independent sources, then it is not notable simply because other individual organizations of its type are commonly notable or merely because it exists" Practically all sources given for this academy team are local in nature, not regional nor national.
 * 3) Notability is not inherited. There is not an argument that this academy team is indeed affiliated with its respective notable parent club, and it may have indeed produced notable players, but that does not, by definition, make the academy club itself notable.
 * 4) Fails depth of coverage. Multiple, independent sources have not been cited to establish notability of this academy league. Again, sources are local to the team.
 * 5) Fails local unit notability. Direct quote from this rule: "the individual chapters of national and international organizations are usually not considered notable enough to warrant a separate article - unless they are substantially discussed by reliable independent sources that extend beyond the chapter's local area."
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Football-related deletion discussions. Coolabahapple (talk) 15:15, 18 October 2016 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of British Columbia-related deletion discussions. Coolabahapple (talk) 15:15, 18 October 2016 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in WikiProject Football's list of association football-related deletions. Spiderone  11:36, 22 October 2016 (UTC)

 Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
 * Merge and redirect - no evidence of independent notability. GiantSnowman 12:55, 23 October 2016 (UTC)

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, North America1000 02:39, 25 October 2016 (UTC)  Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
 * Delete No independent sources and no assertion of notability. This could be a notable topic but there's no evidence here that it is. Redirecting to Vancouver Whitecaps may be appropriate --Super Nintendo Chalmers (talk) 11:16, 28 October 2016 (UTC)

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Your welcome &#124; Democratics Talk 10:25, 3 November 2016 (UTC)
 * Delete or Merge per nom. AlessandroTiandelli333 (talk) 17:37, 3 November 2016 (UTC)
 * Delete - The Residency consists of youth teams, and current consensus is that youth teams must be independently notable to have articles. I'm not even sure a mention on Vancouver Whitecaps FC is appropriate. — Jkudlick • t • c • s 08:35, 11 November 2016 (UTC)
 * Delete - per Jkudlick Spiderone  15:16, 12 November 2016 (UTC)
 * Merge and redirect not independently notable enough per the nominator, but probably worth a paragraph in the Vancouver Whitecaps FC article. Joseph2302 09:41, 13 November 2016 (UTC)


 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.