Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Vanderbilt University College of Arts and Science


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was merge to Vanderbilt University. A possible breakout to an omnibus Colleges and schools of the Vanderbilt University article can be discussed on the article's talk page. Randykitty (talk) 14:13, 27 June 2019 (UTC)

Vanderbilt University College of Arts and Science

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No evidence of notability ElKevbo (talk) 02:17, 12 June 2019 (UTC)
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 * Keep. I respect the proposer very much, but this seems like a silly nomination (I would argue that a constituent college of a major research university is, prima facie, notable). Regardless, I've fleshed out the lead a bit to provide some evidence of notability. Esrever (klaT) 05:00, 12 June 2019 (UTC)
 * Notability is not inherited so merely being a constituent college of a notable university is not sufficient. Like every other subject in Wikipedia, we need independent sources that explicitly focus on this subject, not its parent organization.  Similarly, the college does not inherit notability from its constituent units e.g., departments, centers. ElKevbo (talk) 10:23, 12 June 2019 (UTC)
 * Sure, but in the long list of articles to which one might devote one's time on Wikipedia in terms of assessing notability, constituent colleges just aren't the place I would start. Esrever (klaT) 14:35, 12 June 2019 (UTC)
 * I appreciate your work in the article but I still don't think that any of the sources that you've added establish notability. We need (ideally independent) sources that explicitly focus on the college, not its constituent departments or people who have been associated with it.  ElKevbo (talk) 14:37, 17 June 2019 (UTC)
 * Well, I would argue that a college is made notable by the people and the departments associated with it. They are otherwise just freestanding collections of buildings. Esrever (klaT) 03:49, 22 June 2019 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Arts-related deletion discussions. North America1000 15:06, 12 June 2019 (UTC)
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 * Merge into Vanderbilt University. – John M Wolfson (talk • contribs) 19:59, 13 June 2019 (UTC)


 * Keep Merge as discussed in 'Comment' below. - post-graduate degree awarding institution. Plenty of sources out there to meet WP:ORG. Just Chilling (talk) 23:18, 15 June 2019 (UTC)
 * Can you please expand on this? The university is the institution that awards the degree, not the college.  And can you please provide some examples of sources that explicitly focus on this college?  Thanks!  ElKevbo (talk) 14:37, 17 June 2019 (UTC)

 Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Spirit of Eagle (talk) 02:45, 19 June 2019 (UTC)
 * Merge I don't see what's unnotable about a notable university's college. Trillfendi (talk) 18:13, 19 June 2019 (UTC)
 * Merge into Vanderbilt University. The sources used as references in the article are not independent and therefore don't establish notability for Wikipedia's sake.  I can't find anything on my own in a brief websearch for additional sources.  It does appear that this college is not notable apart from the parent university.  Merging some of the content into the parent article is the best option.  TimBuck2 (talk) 18:21, 19 June 2019 (UTC)
 * Merge with Vanderbilt University.  Lubbad85   (☎) 20:18, 19 June 2019 (UTC)
 * Comment - it is clear that deletion was never an option and this was not the right forum. Normally, I would be happy to support a merge. However, if you look at the 'V's in Category:Vanderbilt University there are a number of schools of this university that have their own articles. Consequently, just merging a random school into the main article would be out of keeping with the main article and would look decidedly odd. I am sympathetic to the concept that the individual schools shouldn't have their own page but merging them all into the University page would unbalance it. If the consensus is against separate pages for each school then I suggest merging them all into an omnibus Colleges and schools of the Vanderbilt University article. This would entail closing this AfD and starting a new merge discussion but the end result would be far more professional than merging a random one of a number of schools. Just Chilling (talk) 21:56, 19 June 2019 (UTC)
 * I agree that it may be better to close this AfD in favor of an omnibus nomination for most or all of the other Vanderbilt college articles (I haven't examined all of them and it's possible that some may be independently notable; I suspect the Peabody College might have enough sources dedicated specifically to it to pass muster). Personally, I don't see much in this article that really needs to be merged into the university's article; if the gratuitous details are omitted then we only have a solid paragraph of material left and that sounds about right for what should be included in a university article for each constituent college. ElKevbo (talk) 23:00, 19 June 2019 (UTC)
 * Merge into Vanderbilt University. Alex-h (talk) 16:07, 24 June 2019 (UTC)
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 * Comment, "otherwise just freestanding collections of buildings." (words made way towards the top of this afd), quite an insensitive comment about the hard work by numerous architects/builders made on the development of these campuses, suggest that some of them (no i dont have the sources:)) will be wikinotable for their own standalones, but i digress (as usual coola!:)), inconceivable that such an institution has not generated a couple of sources for wikinotability, but as consensus appears to be going towards a merge agree with above that a catchall "Colleges and schools of the Vanderbilt University" article, that can then have breakout articles as required, could be made. Coolabahapple (talk) 02:35, 25 June 2019 (UTC)
 * Merge into Vanderbilt University. Kudpung กุดผึ้ง (talk) 12:10, 27 June 2019 (UTC)


 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.