Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Vardan Bichakhchyan


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was delete. S warm  ♠  20:40, 11 September 2015 (UTC)

Vardan Bichakhchyan

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Contested PROD. Concern was Article about a football manager who fails WP:GNG and who has not managed a club in a fully pro league. PROD was contested by the articles creator based on their intention to expand the article. This in no way address the notability concerns. Sir Sputnik (talk) 19:53, 19 August 2015 (UTC)
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 * Keep - He is the manager of a professional team that regulary plays at the preliminary rounds of the UEFA European club competitions. He is managing the team since 2011. I do not see any reason to reject such an article. Currently, he is considered one of the most successful football managers in Armenia.--Spetsnaz1991 (talk) 04:29, 20 August 2015 (UTC)
 * do you have a source to back up the statement "he is considered one of the most successful football managers in Armenia"? Spiderone  21:16, 4 September 2015 (UTC)


 * Delete - Fails WP:NFOOTY as has not played senior international football nor played in a fully professional league. No indication that subject has garnered significant reliable coverage for any other achievements to satisfy GNG.
 * Comments above by Spetsnaz1991 are misguided. Current consensus is that NFOOTY is only satisfied by participation in contental competition when the player in question has played firstly in the competition proper and secondly is involved in a match between two clubs both from fully professional leagues.
 * Furthermore, the argument that Shirak is a professional club is irrelevant. NFOOTY is clear that professionalism needs to be "full" and that full professionalism needs to be league wide and there is no consensus at WP:FOOTY that the Armenian league is fully professional.
 * The only sources provided are to player databases that do not provide significant coverage and therefore do not support GNG. Fenix down (talk) 09:28, 20 August 2015 (UTC)
 * More sources and details were added and included.--Spetsnaz1991 (talk) 10:18, 20 August 2015 (UTC)
 * The sources provided in the references section though aren't coverage of him as a manager, its him talking very briefly about the club. I'm not seeing significant coverage there that contains worthwhile elements to be used in his article. Fenix down (talk) 08:09, 24 August 2015 (UTC)
 * Keep or merger to Shirak Gyumr. All the best: Rich Farmbrough, 16:21, 23 August 2015 (UTC).

 Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
 * Delete - fails WP:GNG and WP:NFOOTBALL. GiantSnowman 11:00, 24 August 2015 (UTC)

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, T. Canens (talk) 23:49, 26 August 2015 (UTC)  Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
 * Keep per Spetsnaz1991 and the massive volume of coverage in Armenian sources. It's pretty obvious he is of a high profile. —Мандичка YO 😜 05:44, 27 August 2015 (UTC)
 * Delete - fails WP:NFOOTY and WP:GNG criteria. --Jimbo[online] 12:49, 3 September 2015 (UTC)

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Randykitty (talk) 16:26, 3 September 2015 (UTC)
 * Delete - The coverage displayed in the article's sources is routine and run-of-the-mill stuff and so it fails WP:GNG. It also fails WP:NFOOTY as others have already said. Spiderone  21:15, 4 September 2015 (UTC)


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