Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Varien (2nd nomination)


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The result was no consensus.  Sandstein  11:27, 27 April 2017 (UTC)

Varien
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Fails notability criteria for musicians. - The   Magnificentist  05:13, 5 April 2017 (UTC)
 * Keep. Meets criteria 5, "Has released two or more albums on a major record label or on one of the more important indie labels". - MicroPowerpoint —Preceding undated comment added 05:29, 5 April 2017 (UTC)
 * Micro, but he hasn't released two or more albums on Monstercat or any other labels. The ones listed in the discography section are extended plays which are shorter recordings than an album. - The   Magnificentist  06:01, 5 April 2017 (UTC)
 * Magnificentist, Fair enough. I see 'My Prayers Have Become Ghosts' as an album, not an EP because of the length (which is over 25 minutes) and that it has 7 songs, which usually determines it as an album, not an EP. Then there is The Ancient & Arcane which is labeled as an album. — Preceding unsigned comment added by MicroPowerpoint (talk • contribs) 23:15, 5 April 2017 (UTC)
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 Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, North America1000 03:03, 12 April 2017 (UTC)

 Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Spirit of Eagle (talk) 05:35, 19 April 2017 (UTC)

Keep per the significant coverage in multiple independent reliable sources.  The article notes: "Amidst the monotony of endless “superstar” DJ press releases it’s rare to find the raw authenticity of musicianship, but when those select few unrivaled talents pop up like diamonds in the rough, true music fans immediately take notice. Varien is one of those artists. The 25-year-old composer, producer and musician, real name Nick Pittsinger, transcends electronic music with not only his cornucopia of musical styles but his TV and film production and scoring credits on Furious 7, 300: Rise of an Empire, The Purge: Anarchy, The Real World and The Walking Dead. After the Tampa native’s collaborations with mega-talents like Skrillex, Two Steps from Hell and Celldweller, he’s now unveiling his experimental 8-track album debut The Ancient & Arcane via Monstercat, primed to offer listeners an existential experience. “The Ancient & Arcane is really a free flowing amalgamation of influences and inspirations for me that I’ve held true for a long time,” states Pittsinger. “A lot of people will think this is a ‘reinvention of Varien’ when in reality, the genre-less nature of this album in whole is really what I’m all about.” Incorporating elements of Latin jazz, electro swing and Japanese future bass, among others, Varien emblazons his sonic finesse for his premiere full-length body of work."  The article notes: "After months of anticipation, the moment of truth and unveiling has come for Varien’s debut album, The Ancient & Arcane. The eight track LP features a wide array of sounds and genres that we could only expect Varien to create, including electroswing, Japan-influenced future bass, and much more. This extremely experimental album is an empowering and enchanting experience in its transformation of sonic soundscapes. The Ancient & Arcane is not only an audio-visual experience, such as the recently released ‘Supercell’ music video, but this is a true out of this world endeavor and feeling for all who listen."  The book notes: "One year earlier, Nick Pittsinger, an American teenager armed with free digital audio editing software an an Internet connection, produced an extremely time-stretched version of pop musician Justin Bieber's hit 'U Smile.' Pittsinger uploaded the version to Soundcloud, a popular social network and music-sharing platform. His remix was redistributed through news aggregation websites and spawned similar sampled mixes of extreme durational subversion that appropriated other pop idols like Rebecca Black and Beyoncé. In 2010, this dislocated world-wide microscene, composed of often anonymous users including artists as diverse as Lopatin and Pittsinger, assumed an interesting position within the discourse of Internet commentary; the formulaic and marketable products of entertainment industries stretched into works of amateur labor and free digital culture. Pittsinger explained flatly: 'When you slow down a video by 800 or 1,000 percent, every detail is seen—you see exactly how stuff breaks or people sneeze.' ..." <li> The article notes: "A month ago, two big pop-music events occurred online. One was Cee-Lo Green's Fuck You, an instant internet smash that vaulted to more than 2m plays via a quickie, follow-the-bouncing-lyrics YouTube clip (since supplanted by a live-action video). The other belonged to 20-year-old Nick Pittsinger, working under the name Shamantis, who slowed down Justin Bieber's U Smile till it sounded like a whale dirge and/or something from the 4AD label, then posted it to SoundCloud; it too has been played more than 2m times. Both are novelties that actually stand up, but the big difference is that most of the people who checked out the YouTube phenomenon knew about that site already. The slowed-down Bieber track, though, was likely the first encounter with SoundCloud for many of Pittsinger's listeners."</li> <li> The article notes: "Yesterday, a DJ named Nick Pittsinger (a.k.a. Shamantis) posted a track titled, 'U Smile 800 Percent Slower' which is a manipulated version of the Justin Bieber song 'U Smile,' slowed down from its original 3:17 running time so that it lasts for over 35 minutes. When I heard it, I immediately began playing with the audio to see how he'd made the new version. I ran the recording through Ableton, an audio processing software, sped it up to the original tempo, and found that though it is surely Beiber's song, the audio had been processed before it had been stretched. Pittsinger says he used a program called PaulStretch to slow the track down. ..."</li> <li> The article notes: "The most famous example went viral in 2010, when a Florida DJ, Nick Pittsinger, used a new software program called PaulStretch to transform Justin Bieber’s bubble-gum hit “U Smile” into a dreamy, unrecognizable, 30-plus-minute whooooooosh — the kind of music you might hear when you’re flopped out on a massage table."</li> <li> The article notes: "J Biebz, U Smile 800% Slower When Tampa, Floridas Shamantis, a.k.a. Nick Pittsinger, used the audio application PaulStretch to decelerate Justin Biebers peppy trifle U Smile into a 30-plus-minute ocean of theosophy, he couldnt have known that he was revealing why pop music conceals the mysteries that unlock the universe and why we need to immediately put the brakes on the entire enterprise-literally-before we diddle ourselves into oblivion."</li> </ol>There is sufficient coverage in reliable sources to allow Varien to pass Notability, which requires "significant coverage in reliable sources that are independent of the subject". Cunard (talk) 05:10, 27 April 2017 (UTC)</ul>


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