Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Variety Shac


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.  

The result of the debate was delete. &mdash; F REAK OF N URxTURE  ( [ TALK ] )  20:41, Dec. 25, 2005

Variety Shac
Non-notable local improv comedy group. Only 78 unique hits. AFAIK we don't have WP:COMEDYGROUP yet, but going by what's been established at WP:MUSIC I don't think this group would meet it--no indication of interstate, let alone international tours; no agreements with label-like promotional companies; no indication of national press; and they're less than six months old. I mean, I like to go watch something that makes me laugh, but not every local group that gives free performances is encyclopedic. Regforafd 03:33, 8 December 2005 (UTC)


 * First off, I think that you're abusing the "minor edit" feature to tag an article for deletion. That's about as major as an edit gets.
 * Second off, Keep. Where do you get "78 unique hits"?  Is that for the Wiki article?  If so, that's pretty good considering that it's less than 2 days old.  It is encyclopedic, and here's why: while Variety Shac as an entity has never amounted to anything, its individual members have shown up in a wide array of media and are satellites to some of the biggest stars in American comedy (so yeah, they probably have promotional companies, they just don't mention them on their website).  Sorry that I haven't gotten around to starting the individual members' pages yet, but again, it's only been 2 days. Mareino 14:33, 8 December 2005 (UTC)
 * Weak Delete. Verifyable (there were quite a lot of google hits), but at the moment the article doesn't assert why they are notable as Variety Shac.  It isn't helped that the individual comics don't have articles here...which is odd at least in the case of Andrea Rosen (who I know I've seen around before).  Going to do more searching...  If it was expanded to include their notability then I would reevaluate.  BTW - to address Mareino's question, I didn't see any hits to the wikipedia page in the first several pages...which is to be expected if the article is only a day or two old. --Syrthiss 15:16, 8 December 2005 (UTC)
 * Delete per nom. Allow me to explain the "unique hits" thing. If you type "Variety Shac" into Google and search, the thing at the top right says there were "about 663" hits.  But if you actually go through and try to view those search results, Google stops on the 8th page with the message "In order to show you the most relevant results, we have omitted some entries very similar to the 76 already displayed." &mdash; Haeleth Talk 17:16, 8 December 2005 (UTC)
 * Additional information. New York City's official tourism web site doesn't list "Variety Shac", which further indicates it is only of local interest. Looking forward to the articles on the individuals, tho'. Regforafd 19:42, 8 December 2005 (UTC)
 * I object to that -- NYCVisit.com doesn't list any of the noteworthy comedy clubs. They don't even have an original-content comedy section; it's all advertising.  Mareino 19:52, 8 December 2005 (UTC)
 * Update: I created an Andrea Rosen page, as requested. I'm not going to create ones for the others; I happen to think that Variety Shac as an act is not very entertaining, so I don't want to waste any more time on them than what I'm doing now to oppose deletion.Mareino 19:52, 8 December 2005 (UTC)

''Note: relisting 15/12/05, which is apparently 14/12/05 for y'all. I've always said Australia was miles ahead of anyone else! fuddlemark (fuddle me!) 16:03, 14 December 2005 (UTC)
 * Delete nn. Eusebeus 17:50, 14 December 2005 (UTC)


 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.